Speaker 1
Welcome, agents, to Strain 103-FIN of the Zero Point Report, the number one broadcast all about the news surrounding the Secret World IP. Today is Thursday, July 3rd, 2025, and with me tonight, we have Two Ton Waffle.

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That's right. I'm big. I'm huge.

Speaker 1
It's a big waffle. Who doesn't like a big waffle? That's

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right. we have

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Jimmy the rabbit. Hey, how are you? How are you? How how are you guys doing?

Speaker 4
Not too bad. Better. People weren't stupid in this goddamn.

Speaker 1
I mean, you can't stop people being stupid. That's you just can't. You can't do it.

Speaker 2
Yeah, you try.

Speaker 1
You try. You can't stop

Speaker 1
the stupid. But welcome, welcome. We have a special show for you tonight. In a bit of sad news, we have decided to alter the Zero Point Report. The Zero Point Report has been going on for a long time now. The Zero Point Report has been going on for six years, specifically. But even further before that, as Beyond the Veil. And now we've decided to shift gears again. We've decided to basically have regular episodes. We've been streaming, I put regular in quotation there. We've been streaming relatively regularly, about twice a month is what we sort of planned for. And now it's turned into basically once a month, if not even some months, we skip anyway. And with schedules changing and with family life and jobs and this and that, we've decided to kind of switch gears into a new format, if you will. And that is to basically, instead of having regular episodes, to start having special episodes. When there's news, when we just feel like having an episode and basically being with the community. To, yeah, to just have episodes sort of then. going forward. What do you guys think? Do you guys think that this is a... I know we already talked about it, but what are your thoughts?

Speaker 4
Well, I try not to have them. Pretend to be intrusive.

Speaker 1
They don't involve pizza or

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liquor.

Speaker 1
I

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mean, they might.

Speaker 1
but jimmy has also been collecting uh on his multiple multiple range of characters epic cash keys because it is part of the anniversary event is currently going on um what anniversary is this is this the seven eight eight eight it's eight we

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can

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make an eight with

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yeah

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oh

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yeah we can we can try to make our own eight um t-shirt because the t-shirt stopped at what six

Speaker 4
yeah they stopped at six

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um it is now secret legends eighth anniversary and as part of the

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כשתלמ Wheel

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of epic cash keys. The epicness. Wheel of epicness.

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You all make me

Speaker 1
feel old.

Speaker 2
I'll let Jimmy explain because he's the one dealing the names. Yeah.

Speaker 4
We're going to do... Oh, Joe, thanks for the raid. Oh, yeah. Old average

Speaker 1
Joe. Thank you for that raid, man.

Speaker 4
So we're going to do raffles in the stream, and then I'm going to do in-game raffles as well.

Speaker 1
We'll kind of double fist the raffles, if you will.

Speaker 4
Yeah, we are going to gangbang shit out of this raffle.

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So we got the wheel and also got a nightbot for the giveaways for Twitch chat

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as well.

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It's basically, as long as you're active in chat, I'm going to be going through every couple minutes and picking a random name out of my bag. And you get... What are we giving away for the Twitch chat thing?

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Hopes and

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dreams.

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The idea is basically is that Jimmy has all the Epic Caches. I have... No, Jimmy has all the Epic Cache keys. I have at least one of every cache. So if you say... If you win, you can just say what cache you would like. And we have...

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I

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will type it out

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now. We'll open it. And whatever the hell pops out, you'll get.

Speaker 1
You'll get. That's how we roll.

Speaker 4
It can be... It's going to be epic. So if you want like a blue weapon or something, that's not going to happen. The epic cache key, when you open it, is going to give you one of the epic things. So it could be an outfit. It could be a sprint. It could be a pet.

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Could be a weapon

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or a talisman, depending on the cache.

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And I'll type out which caches we have now. I'm going to get the epic cache key raffle. Someone has the Congo script. Send me the

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hopes and dreams. Tell

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message to enter. Is this one haunted? so i have uh caches to give away and i've got plenty i've got i've got a nice stack of each um the agartha cash anniversary cash future tech cash infernal cash only war cash tribal cash winter cash haunted cash and the dark agartha arsenal i have some i don't have as many the tribal cache I've got fewer of but I still have enough. I still have enough to last. If everyone picked tribal I do have enough for everybody.

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I have 100 tribal so I think we're

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good. Tribal is the only one where I have less than 50. I'll put it that way. And if you're in game as well all you gotta do הוא פרסים את אתל לג stack myself of Beyond the Veil t-shirts. To also pass out to whoever wants one.

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I've had some for a while.

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It's the t-shirt of... We're Zero Point Report now, but we don't have our own t-shirt. Zero Point Report was what we were before. Beyond the Veil is what we were before Zero Point Report. I do have a cannon with

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that.

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If you're hanging out...

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I got 20.

Speaker 1
where are you frederick you're the one that's texting me bam bam you get a shirt and you get a shirt and you get a shirt and whoever wants a shirt gets a shirt well i have 30 so i don't know bomber you already got one

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yeah you can't have more than one shirt

Speaker 1
not even gonna try

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with bomber

Speaker 1
bomber already got one

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annulio is is is hermit by the way in game that's uh they they were saying about to pass out

Speaker 1
Okay, okay Are they around us?

Speaker 4
Oh They're in the during the yeah, they might be in here Herman are you are you actually around us in game? Because if you're in game we can give you an award in this shirt

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We have to you have to be near

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us in order to get I know it's for me

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I know it's hermit nine, but I don't see you buying this in a car. Okay? Yeah, they're not logged in right now If you log in you can get a shirt

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how do you click somebody it's been a while you have to control

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tab near them and then it will select them

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okay there you go

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and then if you do a manual slash you can also cheer and it will have their name you get a shirt

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everybody gets a shirt who wants a shirt

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bam you get a shirt

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random people walking by you get a shirt

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they're just like what I've been assaulted

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with

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a shirt

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alright so what I'm going to do is I'm going to go ahead and run first giveaway in twitch chat

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okay

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so all you gotta do is be active in twitch chat just you know emoji type something

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say but just join us in join us in chat just be yeah just be active type something don't just lurk I love lurkers but in this case

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we're gonna call our lurkers I see you all right קרקע, ק

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זה כבר הלב של התק

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yeah every time i go to chicago me and oprah it's just like there's like we're like twins

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no one's ever heard of waffles book club before

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yeah it's

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famous

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i

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added one more waffle i sent you a list of people you want to put it in the wheel spinner

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yeah

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I'll say we do ask that you be at least in game for us to and then also to let us know what cash you want and we are keeping we are keeping track

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all right the names best

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we can we're keeping track

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I think we did this last year and we got

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through through 20 we did got through 20 keys

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who is that

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oh you

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are the first

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winner uh

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what cash do you want opened with an epic

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and we have all of them

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yeah if you didn't win this time don't worry you're going to have a chance everybody's going to get something

Speaker 1
Dark Agartha I have to figure out how to let's see okay I can just shift how to split I assume you already probably have a darker garth in cache

Speaker 4
wait who said darker garth oh they said it they

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just said intel

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alright so I'm opening this one yep uh where are they

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oh there they are right

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in front of me right there okay

Speaker 1
but yes we decided to switch gears uh for zero point reported we have a lengthy history and i did go through and figure out the at least what what i've considered to be the um some of our biggest shows over the year uh over the year years uh um combined we've had almost 400 episodes beyond between beyond the veil and zero point reports um beyond the veil started in 2000 in july 2012 as hollow sweet medias uh

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beyond the veil started with

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uh antita and zander very gin and someone who would go on to do something uh jerry not that everyone else didn't you know uh jared tan is currently the community manager for massive monster if you've heard of the game cult of the lamb he is the community manager for cult of the lamb uh he started on beyond the veil with us all those all those years back um say back in back in 2012 who do we got next who do we got next that's what i'm talking about the person who was like

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i can't Frederick. Frederick. I'm going to launch

Speaker 4
another client. On a moment, oh, por favor.

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Presented a stream with you on Metamoth for BTV's sixth anniversary. Hello, monkey.

Speaker 1
they

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said oni please

Speaker 1
oh yeah oh nice so i remember i remember the sixth anniversary that was um six years ago that was 2018 obviously i'll say that was a big one if i remember yeah i say i joined beyond the veil in 2016 in October of 2016. That's when I joined Beyond the Veil. No peeking up my dress. Looking up is weird anyway. I don't think I can. Pretty sure I can't. No, because people start disappearing. The closer I get, the more they disappear. Yeah, can't do it. Let me try to look up people's dresses on stream. That's what I joined was in October 2016. Then March 30th, 2017 was our first, was one of the first huge shows that I remember. Before that, like I said, I don't know a whole bunch. What's up? Do you have Oni Cash? Oni Cash, oh yes.

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They wanted an Oni Cash.

Speaker 1
You got it. Which one's that one? This one.

Speaker 4
Trade it to Das Convention right here.

Speaker 1
there you are you got it opening

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herald of

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carnage I created

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a tarot card

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posted by Madame

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Roge in

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game and a small video also nice I don't have titles on in this character damn it hold on

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i'm just gonna i'll

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say so yeah before before we before i joined in with beyond the veil um i don't know too much about the the bigger episodes before that uh but the first one i remember was the was a huge so march 30th 2017 where we interviewed tilty tilty who was game director mole hall mole hall there they are

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come on down be sure to check underneath your seat for your prize

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um and that was that was the first one that i remember that was that was still back in tsw uh that's when they announced secret world legends and that was a huge show we had like אני חושב שהקאנט של המסע של המסע שלנו על טוויץ' בקרה ככה, אני לא יודע, חודש חודש, בואו נחזור על זה זה ככה כמו 260, זה כמו 250, 270, כבר ככה שם, זה היה, זה היה, כי בקרה שלנו הם רק קדימו את זה, וקיבלנו על טלטי לדבר על זה, וכל מי כאן, כמו, היינו על פלטפורם המסע של אגרתה, שם, יש קצת, יש ככה קצת סד סטייג, היינו על that little side stage of agartha all the way over there now this is the main platform surprise me you you can say surprise me okay all right you get surprised one ip man uh here you go you get um and

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only where

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are you are you winter if

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you want a shirt Where are you? Hermit 9.

Speaker 4
Yeah, they're Hermit 9.

Speaker 2
Where are you?

Speaker 4
Bouncing, I think.

Speaker 2
Bouncing, there you go. Control tab.

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You guys

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got them shirts?

Speaker 2
You get a shirt.

Speaker 1
Until my shirts run out.

Speaker 2
Get his shirts off our back. That

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was for Mulholl, right? Yes. We got a Black Widow. Ooh.

Speaker 1
Black Widow pet. That's a good one. I like that one.

Speaker 2
Yeah, I wish the price was

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right.

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music that's free to use.

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If you use the

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Epic Cache Keys, these are the prizes that come out of the... It's one of the biggest prizes in the caches. Still randomized, but one of the biggest prizes in the caches. Have we done an

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in

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-Twitch one yet?

Speaker 2
I've pulled a third name.

Speaker 4
Oh, okay. What do you got?

Speaker 1
I've been posting

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up in our private Discord with your name so far. Scratch Fandango, come on down. Scratch? Say something in chat, so at least we know you're here. Can I have your present?

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Shantahex and LoneMonkey80.

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Boo.

Speaker 1
both of you I see those names

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I added Scratch into the list

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and Scratch Fandango Boo! Boo Scratch! Scratch a hex choose your what's going on uh what the heck's going on i don't know what are you doing i don't

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know the hell big portal

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just appeared um oh the gatekeeper's right behind us how you doing gatekeeper Hello.

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Hello there.

Speaker 1
Shanta Hex. Dark Agartha. Okay.

Speaker 4
Who are you? Are you trading Gatekeeper?

Speaker 1
Oh, there you are. Trade target's too far away. What the heck are you talking about? It's too tall. I'm not going to trade. Because

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you're too small.

Speaker 1
From your perspective, they're like

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a mile away.

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Oh, you already won one on my tune, Daciano? Well, okay. I mean, we have no problems giving out more than one. If you want to pass it off to someone else, you can, but you can win again if you want. Wait, who?

Speaker 4
What are we talking about?

Speaker 1
LoneMonkey80, who is Daciano.

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Who is the one that won

Speaker 1
the Dark Midrash card? That was Shantahex. I don't know who they are in game. Shantahex, who are you in game?

Speaker 2
Well, the real Shantahex, please jump up. you get two of me on the way

Speaker 1
tatterhood things are going to be a little chaotic it's fine

Speaker 4
they wanted the dark agartha one right

Speaker 1
yes

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just roll with

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it air scratch I see scratch scratch

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well I can tell you it's going to be a third aid weapon I still don't know which one yet. Ooh. Wait. Oh, you know what? I don't have name tags on this other client. So I have to trade this shit to Jimmy so that I can then fucking see who to give it to. All right. Where the hell is Tatterhood?

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All right. So I'm going to do another Twitch.

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Haunted. You want to know Haunted? That

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one's done.

Speaker 1
Wait, hold on. Do we still owe

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one? We got to keep going. We got to keep going.

Speaker 1
Got one for Scratch. Which one is for Scratch? Scratch is over here.

Speaker 4
I know, but what?

Speaker 1
He wants

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Haunted. He wants Haunted. Okay, hold on. Logging. Logging into a character.

Speaker 1
Say Jimmy has basically used his 30 characters and has logged them in each day. Oh, that's your... Okay, that's your gatekeeper spawn out. And he's logging in every day to get the epic cash key on his 30 characters. That's how we have all these keys.

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Yep.

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So like an hour and a half every day for 17. I was going to say a lot of expense, but legit.

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All right, is that haunted? Is that a

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trademark haunted?

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I'm in front of you, Mr.

Speaker 1
you are okay too

Speaker 4
far away shut up you got to get right under my crotch i really do there we go

Speaker 1
yeah i haven't really noticed much weird by being this uh by being the size that i am like there hasn't actually been that many issues sometimes i fall into things that uh i don't You should fall into. Wait, this is Scratch, right? Yes. Soro, Sicarius. Soro? Yeah, yeah, okay. Spanking Sir. Anolial. Again, I don't have name

Speaker 4
tags on the free-to-play client for some fucking reason. It's very confusing. All right. Scratch one's done. All right.

Speaker 2
Stand on the flare as a booster. That's an idea. if you could get on top of it

Speaker 1
like if you win stand over here so okay yeah so beyond that uh i joined beyond the veil in is it 2016 we had our big episode in march 2017 in june 2017 was the first time that i became that I was primary host of Beyond the Veil, which felt weird to me, considering that other people had been there much longer, but when it came to Antita basically needing to... She couldn't make the show. It was, well, who can host? And it just turned out to be me. Hermit?

Speaker 4
Hermit wanted to own in cash? Is that right?

Speaker 1
Enolio. That's Hermit. That's Hermit? Hermit 9? Okay.

Speaker 4
You need to give me the cash.

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There you are.

Speaker 4
I'm on Death Racer.

Speaker 1
That's Oni,

Speaker 4
right? Yeah. Yep. I think so. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1
It is, yeah.

Speaker 4
Give you a t-shirt, too. Oh, it's going to be a weapon.

Speaker 1
Ooh.

Speaker 4
It's like Christmas.

Speaker 1
I got the t-shirt t-shirt's not part of the cash sadly but you can still have you can still have it you can still have it anyway

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you don't have to

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win a cash to get a t-shirt

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another roll

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dawn charger

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the

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charger of the dawn I do not

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see them hanging out it said in a dungeon but only alright well

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we'll go ahead and re-roll you gotta be present

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gotta be for the

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whole two

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hours

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that's right

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you gotta be right here alright

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can you

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no no no just blindy

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yeah

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alright twitch chat picking a winner you're a wiener Elurus

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Ababi

Speaker 4
what character name like what the hell just throwing bombers inventory under the bus there

Speaker 1
so right now mine's filled with all the caches so I feel it I feel that I feel that pinch only seems popular right now you

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know I got I got a couple spots

Speaker 1
gotta watch out this leaf looks suspicious it was suspicious

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elsewhere is holding on to Don Charger I'm going to choose for

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your help a twitch chat winner for the mini mecha that I have

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okay

Speaker 2
that is going to oh

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the

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naces leave

Speaker 4
I think I'm supposed to open another Oni, right?

Speaker 1
Yes.

Speaker 4
Where are you? There you

Speaker 1
are.

Speaker 4
Desolating Jones.

Speaker 1
Nope. Wait, I'm trying to trade with Waffle. Nope. It's

Speaker 4
because he's so large. You're welcome. His

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hip box is...

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way wow

Speaker 1
maybe that's where the winner should stand on the leaf

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I am a leaf on the wind

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ooh that's a that's a sprint

Speaker 1
ooh

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what's that for

Speaker 1
um Mulhall

Speaker 1
Mulhall yeah a lot of Onis tonight

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עכשיו, קודם כך,

Speaker 1
בקרוב כשע

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Okay. Elsewhere, trade me.

Speaker 4
That's funny.

Speaker 1
I will stand on my flare.

Speaker 2
Yay. All right, so I'll go ahead and remove this name. And we'll do another spin a wheel.

Speaker 1
They're cooking me. Field medic. Field medic.

Speaker 4
Alright, find out what the cash they want. I see them. They're right over here.

Speaker 1
They are. Congrats, Field Medic!

Speaker 4
They said haunted. Haunted.

Speaker 1
Do you want to throw

Speaker 4
a haunted over to Happy Kitty?

Speaker 1
I can. Haunted's a good one. Haunted's the one with the spider bike in it, right?

Speaker 2
um i think so

Speaker 4
i like the spider bike

Speaker 2
was it that one spider

Speaker 4
bike spider bike does whatever a spider bike does

Speaker 1
i could freak everybody out

Speaker 4
it's opening where's my

Speaker 1
spider bike i know i have one there it is

Speaker 4
it's

Speaker 1
gonna be a necklace I grow.

Speaker 2
It would be something if it was a very tidy bike.

Speaker 1
That's right. The secret is that no matter what height your character is, as soon as you get onto a mount, you change height to whatever the mount is. Mounts have one height. So if I get off the mount... You're like the Grinch.

Speaker 4
Your heart grew three sizes.

Speaker 1
That's right.

Speaker 2
All right. Twitch chat winner again is scratch. Scratch.

Speaker 4
All right. At some point you might start, start, uh, slowing that down or something. And now I got to switch clients again. That was the eight characters on that account. so we've given away nine keys so far

Speaker 2
nine out of 30 we're doing well well 10

Speaker 4
if you count this one that i'm logging into for right now

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so

Speaker 4
uh no i probably open my spreadsheet now i'm not gonna remember

Speaker 2
may the odds forever be in your favor

Speaker 1
I was about to give this person the anchor of Beyond the Veil shirt and they're already wearing it

Speaker 2
I see them all

Speaker 1
I see them all

Speaker 2
yeah it's all you have to look for this

Speaker 4
cash that magically appeared what cash did Scratch want for this one

Speaker 2
good question

Speaker 4
scratch

Speaker 2
you have a

Speaker 1
limited selection tribal oh no uh

Speaker 4
it's just a cash right

Speaker 1
it is it's just a cash

Speaker 4
just hanging out

Speaker 1
only please

Speaker 4
you want to trade it to scrub bunny yes

Speaker 1
the character that's

Speaker 4
never picked up a lore in the game

Speaker 1
spin the wheel that is a Tilti reference

Speaker 4
yeah that's why did you see his name do you see this character's first and last name oh no I don't have that turned on if you just inspect

Speaker 1
you you should see it

Speaker 2
sorry Volimer hold on no

Speaker 1
lore for Tilti

Speaker 2
no lore for Tilty.

Speaker 3
Tilty, if you don't know, was one of

Speaker 1
the game... What is that title? Game Master? No. Game... He became Game Director. Yeah.

Speaker 4
Bylos moved up and then he moved up. He was the designer before that or something.

Speaker 1
And I remember that in one of the interviews that we had with him, הוא עשו את זה ואומר, "אז special mechanic and he kept calling them gimmicks and didn't

Speaker 3
understand why that was a bad

Speaker 4
thing to say we're gonna explain on stream like for the love of god stop saying gimmicks

Speaker 1
we're like do you think gimmick is the right word to say which is why to this day i still call them gimmicks

Speaker 2
Jimmy did you get the Tatterhood one

Speaker 1
Tatterhood one's one their second

Speaker 2
one well they got the spin on the wheel

Speaker 7
oh nice they got the wheel

Speaker 4
spin like an oni all right you can give that one i'm logging them in right now

Speaker 1
so yeah so the first time that i was hosted beyond the veil like primary host was june 2017. so we've been doing this for a while um and then this was a fun show in july on july 13th 2017 beyond the veil interviewed Jimmy the rabbit right why

Speaker 3
I'm

Speaker 1
not sure I forget what that was for but it was you and headshotty we we interviewed you

Speaker 4
gave you two more names to add to the wheel okay

Speaker 2
and elsewhere well

Speaker 4
Gabe2 on Discord. And then I'm supposed to open an Oni for Tattahood? Yes. Saucy boy. Saucy boy. Yeah, Oni is popular this year for some reason. Oni is popular. So

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both weapon

Speaker 4
Where'd it go? Oh There it is Eyes not working

Speaker 1
Looks nice this cache You see it up close like made of wood That

Speaker 5
made of wood where the hell the caches

Speaker 1
have like a wood veneer to them we just like saying the name oni is that specifically in a garth and cash it might be do they have a different uh they have a different look for each cash It does have a nice wood finish to it. Elsewhere. Did Elsewhere win? I don't know. Did they?

Speaker 2
I believe so, yeah. You're asking

Speaker 4
me. Okay. I'm running, like, multiple clients and Excel sheets. He is, yeah.

Speaker 1
Okay, elsewhere. If they didn't, I'm taking it off of Vomers said, didn't elsewhere win one too? Elsewhere, what cash? I'm just saying they won. This is chaotic.

Speaker 4
I don't know. Did they? I know I gave them stuff to hold for someone else.

Speaker 2
No, it was the Twitch giveaway. way

Speaker 1
okay tribal elsewhere once tribal tribal cash

Speaker 2
speaking of wheel let's give it a good spin

Speaker 1
and you go fuck yourself runner it takes Jimmy an hour and a half to log into all

Speaker 3
these characters every

Speaker 1
day he's like speed running logging into all the characters right now.

Speaker 4
Elsewhere.

Speaker 1
Who

Speaker 4
is this for? Who is the tribal for?

Speaker 2
Elsewhere.

Speaker 5
Elsewhere? Okay.

Speaker 2
And also elsewhere again.

Speaker 1
Gosh darn it. Again? Yeah, his name just spun again. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4
You got to get better raffle tech.

Speaker 2
Only if we had the technology.

Speaker 4
Oh, this one's going to be fun. I really like this. Logging in as this character. You'll see why in a second.

Speaker 1
I should go stand next to elsewhere. That's where the luck is. more tribal more

Speaker 2
tribal all right

Speaker 4
again yeah

Speaker 2
chat scratch come on what are you doing did you pay what you

Speaker 1
would a few times maybe say all right i'm good i'm

Speaker 2
good i'm

Speaker 1
good you can say that you can be like i'm good i'm just saying waffle means hey

Speaker 2
this is nightbot we've done

Speaker 3
our six years we pretty much

Speaker 2
did like every single bot known to twitch

Speaker 4
and you broke them all they're trying to say

Speaker 2
yeah scratch the winner

Speaker 1
cash you you're standing behind us have a t-shirt if

Speaker 2
you want win say something in chat guys

Speaker 4
i'm on the way who the heck is on the way i

Speaker 2
promise you'll

Speaker 4
know it's my character

Speaker 2
all right we're gonna roll again

Speaker 4
okay oh it's a bomber

Speaker 1
that's right that's right that one they wanted tribal

Speaker 2
volmer has won a twitch chat giveaway this is

Speaker 4
for elpia right yes right okay it's just funny because they won the exact same

Speaker 1
thing scratch says go ahead and roll again i'm good thanks

Speaker 2
yeah that's why i did and then Volmer came up the winner.

Speaker 1
Oh, Volmer won. Okay. That's good. We haven't... Volmer hasn't won yet.

Speaker 2
Scratch.

Speaker 1
Say the next one after the July 13th, 2017 Beyond the Veil interview with HeadShotty and Jimmy the Rabbit, which like I said, I forget what that was about. Why

Speaker 4
specifically? Maybe like a patch or something

Speaker 1
dungeon related?

Speaker 4
Something happened. You gotta look for the secret news around that time. Because I think we were on to talk about it. I'm assuming something

Speaker 1
dungeon related.

Speaker 4
Wait, what was the date?

Speaker 1
It was July 13th, 2017.

Speaker 4
July. Oh. I mean, that was shortly after launch, right? What

Speaker 2
was it? 2017?

Speaker 3
Yeah, that was

Speaker 1
issue one. No, no, no, that was 2017. July 13th was the launch of Steam. The Steam launch of the game. No. Wait, no, that's July 31st. It was soon after SWL released in

Speaker 4
on June

Speaker 1
23rd so it was like a good like almost three weeks after the launch of the game

Speaker 4
it probably was about like post launch

Speaker 1
mechanics like change mechanics that maybe changed

Speaker 4
yeah I mean we were both in the closed beta stuff leading up to it right like

Speaker 3
Shoddy

Speaker 4
appeared behind Tilty on the stream in Transylvania or he didn't

Speaker 3
expect anyone to be on day one

Speaker 1
he's like I'm in Transylvania and

Speaker 6
someone just

Speaker 1
like wanders up behind him yeah

Speaker 6
alright uh who am I opening

Speaker 2
for? what

Speaker 6
did Valmer want?

Speaker 2
Valmer won the uh the

Speaker 6
agartha cash

Speaker 2
agartha cash yeah

Speaker 1
or wait uh no I'm sorry agartha cash oh I almost gave you the wrong one

Speaker 4
Tsk, tsk. You were going to give me Anniversary, weren't you?

Speaker 1
No, I was going to give you Dark Agarth and Arsenal.

Speaker 4
That's even more unfavorable.

Speaker 2
The Wheel of Death would be spun again.

Speaker 1
Vanity transfers? I'm not sure.

Speaker 4
now i'm going to log into jimmy fist c slash to

Speaker 1
aespa gosh darn it aespa

Speaker 4
are you in game anywhere well they had to be in game because they're from the wheel so they sent a message

Speaker 3
they were in game at

Speaker 4
that time at least

Speaker 2
alright

Speaker 4
I need to send them a tell

Speaker 1
something Just

Speaker 4
tried that.

Speaker 2
Syntax.

Speaker 1
AESPA.

Speaker 2
DJ Spectre, you get a shirt. Where are they?

Speaker 4
I don't think

Speaker 3
they're online anymore.

Speaker 4
uh the aes poem hold on yeah no that's not my message oh okay it didn't bounce it'll say like they're offline i'll find out what they want

Speaker 1
okay

Speaker 4
Maybe they're in the middle of a thing or something They're in Stonehenge Oh they're in OD Okay I'll find out

Speaker 2
And Shantex also got the Twitch chat giveaway is that jet tax

Speaker 4
uh is that tatterpick again

Speaker 1
yes

Speaker 4
guys

Speaker 2
gotta start hey whoever whoever's lurking um in twitch chat say something in chat because then you get added.

Speaker 3
Yes. Maybe we should just

Speaker 4
like spin because the wheel is removing names, right?

Speaker 2
Yeah.

Speaker 4
Maybe we spin the wheel some more times and lay off Twitch now a little bit. Just saying. But what did they say? They said Dark Agartha? We got a

Speaker 1
lot more people in game here. Yeah. We could be giving it to a couple more people in game.

Speaker 4
You want to give me a Dark Agartha one?

Speaker 1
Dark Agartha? All right.

Speaker 4
Yeah, DeFiz Simmons.

Speaker 1
DeFiz Simmons. wait that was inspect there we are

Speaker 2
the anchor is a winner

Speaker 1
anchor

Speaker 2
the anchor yeah DJ if you want log in with your other roles for the shirts

Speaker 1
do what now

Speaker 5
who did I open Dark Agatha for was that Tatterhud

Speaker 1
yeah your tech nice

Speaker 4
all right god damn it you have to click that thing

Speaker 2
no joke if you want to put your name on the wheel of death send Jimmy to rabbit you know character

Speaker 1
name then send Jimmy a tell it will add you to ooh the puppy

Speaker 2
and if you want to be on the veil shirt you know step forth and be known the pets are constantly next time

Speaker 1
I get something in chat re-roll Shed techs and scratch are out

Speaker 2
Where did my Where did my tech go?

Speaker 1
I had a pet out

Speaker 4
Future tech, right? Yes Also, I am messaging back and forth with Ace, but they're just deciding which one they want

Speaker 1
Okay

Speaker 2
Alright, so you got the anchor, right?

Speaker 4
yeah that's a future tech one i'm coming to get that cash from

Speaker 2
okay so i'll remove the name

Speaker 1
freeborn target's too far away shut up no they're not they're right here

Speaker 2
all right so i'm gonna do is gonna take uh shantex off the list and scratch taking you off the list

Speaker 1
future tech there you go anchor please see freeborn wearing a giant backpack

Speaker 4
i mean anchors ready to be this character plenty so welcome

Speaker 1
dusk charger i tried giving you a t-shirt you already have one is the anchor yes of course anchor has one he's wearing it explain

Speaker 3
my

Speaker 1
smallness a Garth and portal accident that's what I'm going with went into a Garth and portal the regular way and it turned out the other side was just really small oh

Speaker 3
that should be a fun

Speaker 1
okay that should be a fun fun story beat there that all of a sudden it's like a single house but the single house is it like an entire zone anytime bomber give you a name in discord my tallness

Speaker 2
well I eat my weedies but truthfully it was another portal incident but this time was not so lovely

Speaker 1
the same portal but reverse right you crawled in no

Speaker 2
no it was a drunken stupor and I just passed out inside the portal.

Speaker 1
Okay, so we need a Garthan one

Speaker 4
for Aespa.

Speaker 1
A Garthan. Got it.

Speaker 2
Added a new lane.

Speaker 1
Yeah,

Speaker 2
inside the portal, Valmer. Yep.

Speaker 1
There you go. Jackalope Jill.

Speaker 4
yep this is from the double dragon run there you

Speaker 1
go so

Speaker 2
that portals are not to be messed around with that's a little psa right there

Speaker 1
but where are your portals no

Speaker 2
you can still go through them just you know don't mess around with

Speaker 1
so the next show that uh really stuck out to me was october 28th 2017 that was the big spooktacular fashion show which was hosted by beyond the veil and funcom uh we held it upstairs here and see

Speaker 2
And I was a nervous wreck.

Speaker 1
Because at that point, yeah, Xander had stepped down from running beyond the veil. But I remember I saw Andy and the fun story was Andy was wearing like a mask. His character was wearing a mask and that was because he somehow had broke his face. Yeah. So he was wearing a mask to cover up whatever was going wrong with his face.

Speaker 4
So which one am I doing next?

Speaker 2
Laughing One.

Speaker 4
Laughing One? Does anyone find out what they want?

Speaker 1
Do you misremember where it was broken? Maybe in here. I mean, this is where we held the event, I believe. oh they're in the thing I'll let them

Speaker 2
know they want moon charger I already got you a shirt I can't add you noon charger

Speaker 1
and gloaming charger it's one of my favorite names for a time of day It's gloaming.

Speaker 2
USB charger and Apple charger are next.

Speaker 1
Who do we got?

Speaker 4
Who needs one? I'm

Speaker 3
finding out

Speaker 4
which cache laughing one wants. Okay. Dark Agartha. Dark Agartha. Jackalope gym over here gotcha gotcha gotcha

Speaker 3
one Dark of Garth

Speaker 1
and Arsenal coming up why does my pet keep disappearing well god damn it

Speaker 4
I'm not going to be able to find him

Speaker 2
that was a really interesting show because shaggy there was a whole lot of like um like maybe i know at that point they had

Speaker 1
um there was a whole cache in tsw that was related to all the characters from scooby-doo

Speaker 2
yeah

Speaker 1
um i don't know if all that transferred over i'm trying to think of what was uh I know someone was somebody I'm going to blank on the name the Oni that's in Kaiden what's his name

Speaker 3
Embeda

Speaker 1
someone was dressed as

Speaker 3
Embeda and he was really

Speaker 1
good

Speaker 2
should i spin again

Speaker 1
uh sure why not

Speaker 2
okay why

Speaker 1
do i vaguely remember the mystery machine

Speaker 2
that

Speaker 1
was a um like i said I believe that was a cache. Was that one of the caches in TSW?

Speaker 2
Mad Melody.

Speaker 1
Mad Melody. They're chilling over here. They've been chilling the entire time over here. Just hanging out. Oh, that's why. Someone keeps

Speaker 7
getting rid of my pet.

Speaker 1
with one of the What cash do they want of those things Mad melody what cash would you like?

Speaker 2
Tribal

Speaker 1
tribal sure tribal

Speaker 4
can trade that to bit boy

Speaker 2
hey, Pip-Boy. Have some cash. Another kind of cash.

Speaker 4
Ooh, a Serengeti Courser. Ooh, good one.

Speaker 2
the next show i have after that

Speaker 1
is what's that i

Speaker 2
was just going to spin again but go ahead

Speaker 1
um is may 3rd 2018 now going into 2018 where we interviewed nervel for the first time as a new game director that was a interesting one johnny cash i'm sure

Speaker 2
that there is somebody that has that name and

Speaker 1
nervelle is still considered game director

Speaker 2
for secret world i'm

Speaker 1
not even sure at this point yeah

Speaker 2
who's who's in

Speaker 1
charge Do we even have an official game director at this point?

Speaker 2
I mean, if anyone, it would be

Speaker 1
Nervelle, because they were the last one, I think.

Speaker 2
Has

Speaker 1
it passed out

Speaker 2
to the next person alive?

Speaker 1
Yeah. I would still assume Nervelle. And we've had Nervelle on Beyond the Veil. I think we had him on to talk about the game at least three times. We talked to Nervelle quite a bit.

Speaker 4
Are we spinning? Did we spin? We did badmouthing, right?

Speaker 2
Yes.

Speaker 4
Okay.

Speaker 4
The sadist. The

Speaker 3
sadist.

Speaker 4
Wait, sadist. That's Calandra, right? I think that's Kalandra. Kalandra? Kalandra?

Speaker 8
Kilometer?

Speaker 4
You're a kilometer.

Speaker 8
You're a kilometer.

Speaker 1
They need to pick who might be heading to sleep right now. Well, they're still here.

Speaker 4
Did you tell them they won? They entered in-game. I don't know if they're on the stream or not.

Speaker 2
Give him a gentle nudge.

Speaker 1
Just did. The baby drogglord is too cute. I know, I love it. The drogglord puppy. It's one of my favorites. I mean, they just typed that out, so they're here.

Speaker 4
Finding out, maybe. Maybe. They're thinking about it.

Speaker 1
Surely, eventually,

Speaker 3
they'll

Speaker 4
get a reply.

Speaker 1
Let me type in again which ones we have. Agarthan Cache, Anniversary Cache, Future Tech, Infernal, Oni War, Tribal, Winter, Haunted, and Dark Agarthan Arsenal. you choose

Speaker 3
okay you

Speaker 1
got it I

Speaker 3
chose wisely

Speaker 1
you

Speaker 2
chose poorly for the cup cannot go across the shield

Speaker 1
let's go

Speaker 3
with

Speaker 1
my favorite haunted

Speaker 2
Poland whichever

Speaker 1
one might have a drogglord puppy please oh I don't think that's in that's not in a cache I don't think where did the drogglord pup come from no source you can get the drogglord puppy from Jack Venture here in Agartha and the sanguine drog lord puppy is an achievement for having a lot of animals.

Speaker 2
Next

Speaker 1
one, it's legend. It's legend. Where is it? It's over here. This guy.

Speaker 2
Yeah, you can also check out TSWDB.com

Speaker 3
TSWDB.com TSWDB.com For

Speaker 1
$200 What is this called? for 200

Speaker 3
third age fragments

Speaker 1
you can get the drogg lord pup

Speaker 2
yeah

Speaker 4
necromancer

Speaker 1
neck bromance no neck bromance yes

Speaker 4
Yes, hit right. Neck

Speaker 1
bro. Yes.

Speaker 4
So what did It's Legend want? Do we know?

Speaker 2
No.

Speaker 4
They're right over here. It's

Speaker 2
Legend. It's Legend.

Speaker 4
I don't know they won. It's a five-out.

Speaker 1
oh i was just typing out at the same time you got it out before me that's right that's what she said let's say after that episode uh november 1st 2018 was the first time that jimmy joined us officially, his first official episode as a host.

Speaker 4
What was the date of that?

Speaker 1
November 1st, 2018.

Speaker 4
Wow, 2018. Okay, nice. Valley metabolic salaries do not come out of the cast. Whichever one has a red one of these. They said future tech. All right.

Speaker 3
Future tech to

Speaker 4
standing by please I'm all shiny and glowing you are it's going to be a plasma forge weapon oh that's nice Wait, who won that?

Speaker 1
It's Legend, right?

Speaker 4
Yep.

Speaker 1
What is it? What did they win?

Speaker 4
Shit, I

Speaker 1
can't see

Speaker 4
people.

Speaker 1
Many of Jimmy's characters also have warped stuff going on.

Speaker 4
They got a plasma-forged hammer of Havoc, which is pretty fucking cool. Nice. The plasma hammer, just for the skin alone, is fucking awesome. That's a good pull. It's a giant hammer It's really all you want out of the hammer What's the biggest one

Speaker 1
Could it just Be giant Could it just be just massive Just a massive hammer Of course

Speaker 2
What

Speaker 1
else do you need Who else Anyone wants a shirt We got shirts We got 9 shirts left

Speaker 4
What happened to your...

Speaker 2
It's the ads.

Speaker 4
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2
Pushed everything up.

Speaker 4
Bar none.

Speaker 1
Am I just not saying tell

Speaker 3
correctly? Okay.

Speaker 1
Is the command for whispering slash tell, or is it slash...

Speaker 4
Yeah. /tell, space, the name of the person?

Speaker 1
The name. Okay, that's what I thought. I was doing it correctly. Are

Speaker 4
you sure? What are you sure

Speaker 3
of? It says

Speaker 4
"missing

Speaker 1
parameters". Oh, because I probably need to put in the message afterwards. That's what I'm missing. I'm expecting it to start a prompt and it's not.

Speaker 4
"Ashita" said they take a shirt, by the way.

Speaker 1
"Ashita". you have a shirt

Speaker 4
did you send the message to uh let me try you want me too i got it

Speaker 2
you got shirts we got shirts you want shirts

Speaker 1
thank you thank you thank you thank you Thank

Speaker 2
you.

Speaker 3
It is all

Speaker 1
of you, the lovers of Secret World that have made us continue this for as long as we have. You sons of bitches. Now it's just life and other things getting in the way. now we have to pull back a bit not that we're stopping completely we want to make this we don't make this clear we're not stopping completely but it's just not going to be on a regular monthly bi-monthly basis so when we're going

Speaker 3
to have an episode try

Speaker 4
to let you know a little bit ahead of time was that I have it on good authority Mikey is leaving to the Bahamas and never coming back

Speaker 1
that's right I need to Bar none in

Speaker 4
the face with a shotgun repeatedly. They're not paying attention.

Speaker 7
Bar none.

Speaker 2
Hey, Astrid,

Speaker 7
how's it going?

Speaker 2
Astrid.

Speaker 1
Hey, Astrid. I mean, but also on top of that, yeah, so like my Thursday nights are going to start becoming a lot more busy. And it was like, like, oh, do we switch the day of the show? Do we do this? Do we do that? And in my head, it was just like, you know what? podemos simplemente cambiar las guías, podemos cambiar las guías, la noticia se va tan lejos en el medio de anyway now that even once a month it's like well we have some we have some dune awakening news you know we've got uh news on dune awakening about how joel bylos basically has uh from originally what pvp was they've now switched to say okay well maybe we'll add a little bit more pve to the deep desert we're going to change that around a bit they're they're adjusting dude awakening already

Speaker 2
John Fa is the next winner they're

Speaker 4
back here dancing with the with the shirt on did uh

Speaker 1
oh no Bardem didn't even didn't didn't reply not

Speaker 4
yet they're like afk back there I

Speaker 1
said I'm gonna tell

Speaker 4
as well so I'll

Speaker 1
keep an eye on

Speaker 4
that one again

Speaker 1
new one John far yeah they're right here

Speaker 4
yeah I can send them a message

Speaker 1
But there they are. Is it me? It is you.

Speaker 4
Pony cash.

Speaker 1
Is it pony?

Speaker 4
All right. All right. Want to give it to Jimmy Quick over here? Yes.

Speaker 1
You're quick. You're quick. You're quick, but I still got you.

Speaker 2
Hurry up. Hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry.

Speaker 1
Got him.

Speaker 3
after that we had an episode May

Speaker 1
30th May 30th 2019 that was the last episode of Beyond the Veil where Antito was basically going through some things and Xander had already stopped wanting to be a part of the show and so she just was basically like I'm sort of we had like almost like a two-month span where he didn' have any shows and Antida was like you know what I'm I'm kind of good I'm kind of good to to to give it up so we had a big big farewell party in Agartha um for Antida as the last episode of Beyond the Veil and I was um like I said May May 2019 was basically the last last Beyond the Veil show and and then so Luego, junio

Speaker 4
like sometimes someone else would show up but like i think it'd been like that for a little bit before we had the final beyond the mail one

Speaker 1
i'm missing one um the

Speaker 4
tatterhood

Speaker 1
you already won i think they already said pull

Speaker 4
them off the other one say

Speaker 1
shantag's already

Speaker 2
said if their

Speaker 1
name comes up again just just do it again

Speaker 2
uh should i take tatterhood off this list yes

Speaker 1
yeah who else do we got does anyone else want on the list

Speaker 4
i

Speaker 1
spin

Speaker 4
it again so i think i think there's only uh like eight keys left no seven keys left that's

Speaker 2
it going through

Speaker 1
these at a massive clip the fact that we are where we are and it's not like 2 o'clock in the morning

Speaker 2
that's astounding we've been it's been rough I have my ass

Speaker 1
up over here Jimmy's like yeah got three clients running logging out, logging in

Speaker 2
six computers ten consoles

Speaker 1
דעות וחגים A spin-a-rooski, if you will. The next episode that really... Once we started Zero Point Report, we kind of already went to like a second. We were like maybe twice a month. It was good. Cyber Nerd. Cyber Nerd. This nerd over here. Joe!

Speaker 2
Look at this Cyber Nerd. What's

Speaker 1
going on, Joe? Look at this nerd. Joe Joe

Speaker 4
what cast you open oh

Speaker 1
is this a old average Joe

Speaker 4
yeah nice

Speaker 1
there they are well well well uh but the first episode that really really popped in my mind was we held in october 2021 we held a shriek-a-thon where we played

Speaker 3
hide and

Speaker 1
shriek with Andy and Scrivenomancer as a sort of like was it like almost like a bracket style competition yeah

Speaker 2
it was a tournament a tournament

Speaker 1
a hide and shriek tournament and Vommer won future tech got it and i even sent bomber like uh like a like i actually bought like a a little like trophy and i said i sent bomber like a little trophy in the mail for winning that that was part of it i was like i will send you a trophy whoever won that i was gonna send them a trophy because at that point that was already passed when we uh had the giveaway for the for the moons of madness shirt we had a giveaway where um when moons of madness released they had a t-shirt but the t-shirt was only given away at like a convention in California and someone that I know who lives out in California who was going to the convention I was like oh stop by the Funcom booth and talk to Andy mention my name and like he'll give you a t-shirt and then mail me the t-shirt from California to New Jersey and then somebody

Speaker 2
over in Europe

Speaker 1
I forget I forget exactly the name I apologize but yeah but the winner was from Ukraine and so then I had to then I had to mail the t-shirt to Ukraine who won

Speaker 9
pollen Poland Poland Poland Poland Poland Poland get them People polling me, girl. What's up?

Speaker 4
They're offline? I guess.

Speaker 2
That's unacceptable.

Speaker 7
It happens. It happens.

Speaker 2
I'll remove their name.

Speaker 1
But if they're not around, we still got other people here who are being awesome. uh but yeah the street streakathon was really fun who was the last one i think we like uh i know i invited uh tilty i remember inviting tilty but he couldn't come heck nine heck nine the heck

Speaker 3
i'll bet you would just

Speaker 1
buy outlasting everyone else it's a it's a it's a tactic for sure have I already given you a shirt no

Speaker 2
you get a shirt anyways

Speaker 1
I thought I had well you get

Speaker 4
a shirt congratulations might be the AFK corner I just sent them a message I'll see if they reply

Speaker 1
okay oh they

Speaker 4
replied okay is these

Speaker 2
wallflowers back there yeah They did reply.

Speaker 4
The AFK

Speaker 1
people, they're just hanging out back here.

Speaker 4
Probably waiting for the next hourly boss or something. Which

Speaker 3
can I

Speaker 4
choose? Any. Any.

Speaker 4
Any. Don't get crazy ahead of me there, Waffle.

Speaker 1
Blunk Bunny.

Speaker 2
Sounds like a Jimmy Holt. שזה

Speaker 1
in the Rasa, which is where we used the photo mode mod, dressed up players as NPCs, and then also ran them through a tournament.

Speaker 4
Yes! The bracketed fight club? Yes, the bracketed fight club, where we just dressed up

Speaker 1
people as NPCs, and we were like, oh, I don't have to pick on PvPing, and it's like, well, it doesn't really matter if you win or not. It's not really about winning, it's seeing what NPC character all

Speaker 4
right they heck said whichever you want whatever one

Speaker 1
i want all right i've been giving out haunted for that i'm not gonna give you winter we had winter for way too freaking long um

Speaker 2
everyone has winter caches up the wazoo that's

Speaker 1
right um how about oni i'll give you an oni

Speaker 4
sure an icy claws

Speaker 1
there you are nope there you are Oni seems to be popular tonight I'll give you an Oni I'm trying to remember what what NPC won I remember it was a really good time I remember we had a blast, but I can't remember what NPC actually won. Hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 2
Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. She kidding.

Speaker 1
Yeah, she's trying to get behind my computer. She wants to turn off the stream. She says, there's too much. You've been talking too much. You want to say hi to everybody?

Speaker 4
No.

Speaker 1
No, you're good. this is pogo

Speaker 2
and one of my kitties is on the mercy bed behind me I don't know if you can see her

Speaker 4
that one's fun so did anyone ask Blank Bunny what they want cash wise

Speaker 1
no let me go ahead and do that Blanc. Uh, they're not online. No, wait.

Speaker 2
I spelled it

Speaker 1
wrong. God dang it.

Speaker 2
Spin that wheel. Would you let me...

Speaker 1
Blank. Did you message the right

Speaker 4
person this time? There we go. And

Speaker 1
it still says they're not online, so okay. That was spelled correctly that time. Semi-automatic. Magic. They've been trying. They've been trying this whole time.

Speaker 4
Are they here? Yes. What do they want?

Speaker 1
What is this one?

Speaker 4
I have name tags either. What the? This makes this so much

Speaker 2
harder. They want Oni, please.

Speaker 1
Oni?

Speaker 4
Oh, there you are. Yes. I'm on Jimmy POV.

Speaker 1
It's made the sound for me turning around really quickly. Hopefully it's something good I

Speaker 3
got a friend who's trying to post in the

Speaker 1
twitch chat But their messages never show up on my end Or their own end after they refresh Are they in game? I don't know what would be preventing them from

Speaker 2
Talking in chat

Speaker 1
they don't have an account maybe

Speaker 2
verified or anything like that

Speaker 1
I don't think we have any sort of

Speaker 2
I don't remember how we have it set up it's been a while

Speaker 3
yeah

Speaker 4
but you can just I mean the wheels from entering in game anyways not

Speaker 2
from they're talking about twitch chat

Speaker 4
yeah

Speaker 2
I don't see

Speaker 1
any like deleted comments or anything so I don't know why it wouldn't be doing that

Speaker 4
just for fun yeah

Speaker 1
it would yeah it's

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twitch

Speaker 1
i'll say what yeah what say if anyone remembers what uh yeah who won what uh what npc won dude all i remember is i took so

Speaker 4
many goddamn photos for that shit Remember I had the... Did I have like a poll or something? In the forums with all the pictures of all the different ones. You could vote who you wanted to be in the...

Speaker 1
I think so, yeah. Yeah, you did a huge post on it.

Speaker 4
I had like hundreds of pictures and like a voting. It was on my website. It was on juniornava.com. It was like you could vote for which characters you wanted. Oh, that's right. כן, עשינו את זה, וכן

Speaker 1
קיבלנו את כל הכרקטורים, ומי שעשו את הכרקטורים הכי גדולים, הם היו הכרקטורים שבאתם...

Speaker 4
בצד ה-1, כן. -נכון.

Speaker 1
אחד מהם היה כאן, ה

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-H

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אה,

Speaker 1
סמי, או, פוקס דן?

Speaker 2
לא, זה היה

Speaker 1
אה, אתה הלחם מישהו

Speaker 2
כן, אני לא עשיתי רכב עד

Speaker 4
אה, בלונק, בלונק היה עד עוד, נכון? זה היה עד עוד,

Speaker 1
כן, אז אר,

Speaker 4
אר, אר, אר, אר, אר, אר

Speaker 1
Don't worry if we run out, I have a stack of epic cache keys myself. It's not as big a stack as Jimmy's mind you, but it's a stack

Speaker 4
of mine. Mine's nearly gone.

Speaker 1
my thing is that we say Jimmy always is doing the runs. Waffle never touches the daily login rewards and I never use my cash keys. I've got a

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semi

Speaker 1
out of magic was the

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last one.

Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4
They got theirs.

Speaker 2
Want to spin it again? Yep.

Speaker 1
Excuse me. I've got a lifetime account And I have never used them. Maybe a couple. Maybe a couple. I've actually opened up keys. So I've got a stack of three epic cash keys and 400 regular keys. Oh, Barnon just replied. What do they want? Yes.

Speaker 2
Night, Sadist. New winner is RE12. nice

Speaker 4
I think they're offline god damn it why people be going offline so

Speaker 1
okay so what about

Speaker 4
bar none they say what cash they want

Speaker 1
they just replied with really i said yes what cash would you like open but yes the rumble in the rasa was really was really uh a fun time i got that off of uh there there was an ad that i watched where he would just basically do like he'd watch he'd have something Like, like a like a street fighter game or like uh you know mortal kombat or something and he would just set CPU versus CPU and just run a tournament of CPU versus CPU. They say tribal.

Speaker 4
Okay. Hold on. I got to find my way to you.

Speaker 2
Scratch said found the bracket. Top four was Jikama, Damon Kiyota, Station Master

Speaker 1
and

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Dame Julia. Dame Julia?

Speaker 1
What a final four, man. Who said tribal? Uh, that's Bar None.

Speaker 2
Yo mama.

Speaker 1
Jake Hama. Jake Hama won. Okay. Probably why I didn't remember. Not a character that comes to mind easily. Thank you, Scratch. And Lone Monkey. damon

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kiota station master i knew damon kiota was

Speaker 1
up there i don't remember station master being up there i do remember it like came down to like a like a best of it was like a best

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of like two two out of five or something and it went to like the fifth

Speaker 1
round or something like it was a it was a it was a good it was a good match for the final one i i'm not sure i remember that airy 12 uh is not online boo zoo boo zoo i say all

Speaker 2
right spin again i

Speaker 1
was rooting for dame julia madame roger and Miss Plimswood for an epic battle like that of Van Helsing's female vamp trio. It's going to be a fox den. Listen, there's only two of you left on the thing. Fox den and a

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male fox

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den.

Speaker 4
We can just do those two.

Speaker 1
I was going to say, at this point, why even? Yeah.

Speaker 4
oh you want to ask them what they want i am

Speaker 1
oni oni fox that is watching much appreciated i'm

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on freddy buzz behind you

Speaker 1
okay

Speaker 2
i already pulled the next winner

Speaker 1
male tt i don't think that's how

Speaker 5
you say that this was

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no for

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what the hell is foxton there's fox

Speaker 1
male tt that's how you say that they are maeltiti is not online mael-tt yes

Speaker 2
I

Speaker 1
like that maeltiti you would you would

Speaker 4
you can just ask in general if anyone else wants a wants a roll? I don't think everyone around us was on that

Speaker 1
list. I didn't ask in general, but I just asked in say.

Speaker 2
We're passing out cash keys. What do you want?

Speaker 4
I like this character because it randomizes every 30 seconds. Watch. In three. 2 1 Randomizing

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They're like changes Changes what you wear Changes everything

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Random Changes weapons Changes abilities

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Passives Sprint My other 7 all to haven't

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in five four three two one randomizing it's undead ramen

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so yes undead ramen oh

Speaker 4
that's a pretty normal look at this randomization like perfectly normal that's crazy

Speaker 1
that's not bad

Speaker 4
I randomized to like a completely normal so random random thing ever actually

Speaker 1
because normally

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I look like a hot mess

Speaker 1
so random it's normal

Speaker 4
see this is more like what usually happens

Speaker 1
why don't we go with anyone in the twitch chat if no one's speaking up it said if you're not getting any extra like undead ramen was here I know they haven't won yet

Speaker 2
semi-automatic

Speaker 1
went would you like a second one

Speaker 2
yes what about second cash what about second cash

Speaker 1
Mel's messages can't go through but they're technically here Mel

Speaker 2
Mel is your new twitch account like you just started it up

Speaker 4
well no wait but what character are they

Speaker 1
I'll say what character are you What character is

Speaker 4
Mel? Or

Speaker 2
just tell us. Yeah, they can't tell us.

Speaker 1
They're here in Twitch, not in game? Oh, okay.

Speaker 4
Well, I can't give you stuff.

Speaker 1
I do not know why. We apologize. You can ask Romano

Speaker 4
if they want to open a cache. where'd they go undead

Speaker 1
undead

Speaker 4
hiding back here don't let them hide how many do we have left uh i don't know hold on

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all right well

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moderation is not turned

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on so there

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should be no problem

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three

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three Jimmy the rabbit.

Speaker 5
You can't send me a teller because I'm not on that character.

Speaker 1
Send me a tell. I'm

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on

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other tunes on that

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account. Peace.

Speaker 4
I just realized with this mod, I might be the only character whose outfit changes while they're running. I don't think normal people can do that.

Speaker 1
I

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changed like the flash. Would

Speaker 1
like a try. I will send... I need my bed so badly right now. Yes, I'm weak. I admit it.

Speaker 2
What? What on Nen Robin? What?

Speaker 4
yeah ramen do you want us to open a cache at

Speaker 1
this point yeah undead ramen sure sure at jan over here spoke up i will give them a two

Speaker 4
Let's ask what cash they want We don't even have to raffle We got like three people We'll just open three and then call it good Yeah

Speaker 1
Do not take my name in vain Undead

Speaker 4
Ramen No no no it's not in vain see whatever I say god damn it I really mean I would like god damn it

Speaker 1
are you saying a god damn to this it

Speaker 4
I am that's what I'm saying

Speaker 1
I'm sitting here growing old while y'all chat

Speaker 4
well what cash would you like

Speaker 1
say a cash

Speaker 4
would you god damn pick a god damn cash to open? God damn it. Ooh. Got a normal outfit again. What the hell?

Speaker 1
I wanted to kill. That is the purpose of my existence. Isn't it? Isn't it all? You'll get no

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items if you don't fucking

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pick a cast to have

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me open

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alright Volmer I

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see Mel's

Speaker 2
account in chat so I can see them watching but I don't know why they can't speak there's no mod actions no nothing

Speaker 1
yeah I'll give you one to open for for at Jan they came back to me and said Oni war

Speaker 4
and that is the theme this year I don't even feel like a

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lot

Speaker 1
Daciano said I'll take Romans if he ain't saying

Speaker 4
where's where's Etchan

Speaker 1
they're

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hanging out right here

Speaker 1
right here oh there they go see I said it in the beginning what all our caches were it's all what's

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left

Speaker 1
it's all of them it's all the caches every cache

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unlimited caches for everybody

Speaker 1
bitey face who's bitey face

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oh i wanted a t-shirt i gave him one

Speaker 1
this really put the only cash back into rotation it seems to be popular and heck after after this they might.

Speaker 3
No, they'll turn on the winter cash.

Speaker 1
Lack of giving away the caches.

Speaker 4
Where did Ramen go?

Speaker 1
I don't know.

Speaker 3
They just wanted to kill.

Speaker 1
That was the purpose of their existence. I don't know. They disappeared. They never said what cash they wanted. Nope. Well, Daciano says they'll take it. Daciano's already got like three or something. That's true. That's true.

Speaker 3
Ramen log to at

Speaker 1
Jan? Maybe. What do we got? One left?

Speaker 4
I think I have two left. Two left? I have this one and one more.

Speaker 2
yeah groundhog saw a shadow six more years of winter catch

Speaker 4
i mean there are other people showing up right now i think because the hourly is about to happen you could ask like over here or something

Speaker 1
that's true uh elsewhere didn't you already win elsewhere scratch has been tossing tossing stuff at me tossing uh flares at me all night I thought

Speaker 4
you said tossing players and I was like what

Speaker 2
just pick up random

Speaker 1
just throwing people at me

Speaker 4
take this one take this one no one's responding hold on I'm going to put over here unless you get somebody

Speaker 1
keep going with shows that I remember May 2024 we demoed the Secret World tabletop RPG with Brandon and Andy July 11th 2024 we had a 20 epic cash key giveaway which we just eclipsed with 30 as long as we can find two more people get getting getting said they would like a cash where's that

Speaker 2
over by me

Speaker 1
which one which one which cash

Speaker 2
cash cash me outside

Speaker 1
I love the Vandy's dandy during that say Andy joined us and we whichever of the two okay whichever of the two caches sure

Speaker 4
there's way more than two caches there's way more than that I'll

Speaker 1
give them an Oni War. That seems to be the popular.

Speaker 4
There

Speaker 1
you go. Who's bouncing in front of you? That darn brat. Do you want one? Want a cash? Which one? and i was gonna give you a shirt nope you already had a shirt

Speaker 2
now you're all playing the axles yeah the tabletop game that was a fun fun show episode i

Speaker 1
think we were we were bad at it we were terrible at it it

Speaker 2
doesn't matter it

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was fun anyway yeah but

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it was

Speaker 3
supposed to be like i was like i'm gonna get better

Speaker 1
at this i was like i'm gonna get i'm gonna get better at this i'm gonna become better at this yourself

Speaker 4
i was amazing

Speaker 1
all right that

Speaker 4
darn rat was

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where

Speaker 1
are you

Speaker 2
where are you you licked filth off the walls Jimmy

Speaker 4
yeah I was doing amazing

Speaker 1
I'm by I literally

Speaker 4
said that I like how you listened to Vommer but not me

Speaker 1
jackasses There you are. Oops. Tell.

Speaker 2
Here we go.

Speaker 1
Y'all got any

Speaker 2
more of those shirts? I think so. There you go.

Speaker 1
Who said that? Got any more of them shirts? I got one. I have, nope, never, nope. No, I've got two.

Speaker 4
I've got two shirts left.

Speaker 2
I got some.

Speaker 4
Who am I trading this to?

Speaker 1
That darn rat.

Speaker 2
Who said

Speaker 1
that?

Speaker 2
Ah, I see it.

Speaker 4
All right. I think that's all my keys. I'm going to hop on Jimmy and double check there's not one there. But I'm pretty sure that's all 30 keys. And just after midnight. It's not too bad.

Speaker 2
Not too bad.

Speaker 1
We kicked those out. it was 30 keys over a span of what two hours

Speaker 2
that's uh one key

Speaker 1
per four minutes

Speaker 2
we're a machine

Speaker 1
so

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we

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had

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20 last

Speaker 1
year 20 on july 11th 2024 we gave away 20 epic cash keys and that took us forever and

Speaker 2
we're like just drawing things out like oh it's like every 10 minutes or something like that

Speaker 1
we're just like oh should we do another one oh yeah we should do that yeah

Speaker 4
we were doing other things as opposed to february 20th

Speaker 1
2025 zpr's 100th episode and then today july 3rd 2025 our final regular episode before we go to a a new format um so what do you guys what do you guys think for the future like the like the idea

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is basically

Speaker 2
uh bitcoin bitcoin

Speaker 1
you're

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gonna go to nfts

Speaker 1
yeah we're

Speaker 2
gonna do uh zero point report

Speaker 1
five years late we're gonna we're gonna do a zero point report crypto that's what we're our next venture

Speaker 2
you know the best time

Speaker 1
was yesterday but

Speaker 2
the next best time is today hey for nfts you

Speaker 1
do host the dj shows on the regular it's very true

Speaker 4
but that's the whole The point was we're now avoiding the regular. That's the

Speaker 1
whole thing. We still love them. This is the

Speaker 4
last regular episode.

Speaker 1
I would say, but yeah, and it's going to be when we have the chance to do one. And like special news comes around or something big comes around. Like we still want to basically have them. So if you want to be informed about when we do them, join our Discord. Our Discord is the Zero Point Report. We have a Discord. Can I get the

Speaker 2
link? Oh, hello. Woo-hoo!

Speaker 4
Special

Speaker 1
nudes? I mean, if you ask nicely.

Speaker 4
They're not that special, but sure.

Speaker 1
pretty run-of-the-mill standard nudes maybe

Speaker 2
I mean what kind of nudes are you looking for

Speaker 1
he said special ones Men jeg ville også gi en stor takk til de mange gjenstamme vi har hatt på showet over de siste årene. Game direktorene Tilty og Nervelle. Community-manageren Andy Spinosaur. Autorene Bloodwed Mallory. Og selvfølgelig Joshua Deitch, Scrivenomancer. Vi har hatt dem mange ganger. Bloodwed for nesten alle bøker som Bloodwed har hatt. Vi har hatt dem på.

Speaker 2
Star Anvil.

Speaker 1
Star Anvil Studios. Brandon Verhalen, Daryl and Ross, Alison Smith, Andrea Doyen. We had them on. I miss Bloodwood. I haven't talked to Bloodwood in a long time. Other guests have just been on the show. Kylaney's been on the show. Headshotty's been on the show. Vommer's been on the show.

Speaker 2
Hollapoint. That's not what I wanted.

Speaker 1
Miss Hollapoint. Hollapoint's been on the show. may they rest in peace you talked about a few months ago nice the anniversary event always comes around and I always think of hollow point yeah what a what a force in the community they were

Speaker 2
put the discord link in the chat

Speaker 1
right that the people that we lost along the way hollow point sugar, which Zinda, uh, mad lyric. We missed a mad lyric as well. I think I'm in one of the books somewhere too. I'm pretty sure I'm in one of the books as well.

Speaker 2
oh kamikaze uh if you want to post up your um i think you earlier today you said the uh for saturday you have your anniversary thingy you know what we could do actually

Speaker 1
yeah um And very. Yeah, us and very. We're in there. Nice.

Speaker 4
Mikey, if you want to check TSWDB's like announcement page.

Speaker 1
Okay.

Speaker 4
For the anniversary, they have like a farmer's got a list of the like community events throughout the anniversary. That'd be probably like a good

Speaker 1
community contest and events.

Speaker 4
I think I know tags some kind of giveaway, I think. There's

Speaker 5
some other stuff

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going on.

Speaker 5
Oh. So it's

Speaker 4
TSWDB.com.

Speaker 1
TSWDB.com.

Speaker 4
And then if you go on the very first thing, if you do read more, and then scroll, there's a whole list of dates and event names, start time, and all that stuff.

Speaker 7
All right. Try it again. Comma. Comma, comma, comma, comma, comma, comma, comma, comma, Z. Is that what I'm talking about, Mikey?

Speaker 1
Yes, I got it. Posted that up there. All the community contests and events. So. Tomorrow.

Speaker 3
Past us.

Speaker 1
July 4th, alive and buzzing. Eighth anniversary photo shoot. uh

Speaker 3
july 5th happy

Speaker 1
tentacle radio's anniversary show and play anything with drina july 6th the synonylia join cinnamon girl of happy tentacle radio for hours of music and role playing agartha

Speaker 2
i got your comma also

Speaker 1
secret sundays with wall top wall top stream secret legends on the character boston jack and alan medirios for the anniversary as well as uh another עדן ו as well. Teg's anniversary giveaway. Player Teg is hosting a giveaway in the Funcom forums to raffle off eight identical prize bundles of four Pippin viewers and marks of favor. The great eight anniversary giveaway. Unsafe Crayon and the League of Monster Slayers Cabal. Unsafe Crayon and their Cabal League of Monster Slayers are hosting a giveaway on the Funcom forums. Go to the forums. Check out my link. Go to the forums. League of Monster Slayers Scavenger Hunt. screenshot yourself with the selection of subjects as stated in their thread on the forums. Gaia's Infinite Glory, the 8th anniversary screenshot contest by Errol and Vommer. And of course, Jimmy the Rabbit, Stream Seeker Legends, on a plethora, a

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plethora of

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characters.

Speaker 4
There's a whole bunch

Speaker 1
of shenanigans.

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עכשיו הלוגינים עשו. אז קחתי right and

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then i did like

Speaker 4
two of it and then realized this isn't gonna work i need to like mad focus free to player it's like never gonna get done

Speaker 1
it takes so many

Speaker 4
hours right like i

Speaker 1
would put it on the you put it on the side yeah

Speaker 4
so i kind of like like after i did like the side school or lava game right like i kind of it's like okay i can't i can't split focus on two things that are that different and uh and then once i finished the freeborn one i had other ideas lined up so like i kept doing other stuff and like so now now i was like you know what now was a good time

Speaker 1
finished everything

Speaker 4
else i wanted to do go back and finish side scroller yeah nice and i'm in uh mid blue mountain now nice on side scroller guy fighting the reticle i'm sure i'm

Speaker 1
sure the uh the using the reticle with side scroller is probably quite the challenge

Speaker 4
it's not only challenging it's stupid it's it's dumb

Speaker 1
it's like it looks dumb

Speaker 4
like you'll see me like stand like i'll stand past something and interact it's like behind me

Speaker 1
okay oh weird okay the visual

Speaker 4
does not match correctly so i'm like

Speaker 1
spinning in circles

Speaker 4
i'll move like three feet away from something and turn to face away from it also the reticle highlight i'm like okay sure why not

Speaker 1
like oh there it is i

Speaker 4
mean it's not the game's fault right it's not meant to be it's not meant for

Speaker 1
what's not meant to be played that way no no

Speaker 4
yeah so sometimes sometimes i have to just flip it to normal just like like interact with something and then go back to side-scroller. But it is pretty funny. It's pretty fun to run through the game. It's actually really cool when you're going down the roads and stuff and it's side-scroller. You can just see the landscape going by behind you. Those moments are really cool. Or like Siren Song

Speaker 3
in the sewer.

Speaker 4
Joe Slater.

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It's

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side-scroller and you can see all the music notes perfectly from the trail from the side view.

Speaker 1
Okay.

Speaker 4
As you run to catch up with them.

Speaker 1
You see them all just in a straight line?

Speaker 4
Yeah. Instead of looking from behind it, normally you're looking like it's going off in front of you. Which it still is, but you're not looking at it from the side. So, yeah. It's really... It's fun. It's fun when, you know, in more open areas, I guess. It gets a little squirrely in closed spaces.

Speaker 1
Okay.

Speaker 4
The thing that lets me do it, it'll let me toggle whether the camera pays attention to geometry or not. So either in a super closed-in space, the camera's side view is smashed right up against the character, or it's clipping through wall but then sometimes i like i won't be able to see my character because i'm just seeing like the rock in front of my character something um yeah you know oh i

Speaker 3
missed one

Speaker 1
their

Speaker 4
cases are a bit of a challenge

Speaker 1
like round objects on a straight line trajectory yes i'm sure uh but i

Speaker 3
forgot to mention

Speaker 1
one uh וזה נראה טוב. "An again you know what

Speaker 3
I've noticed

Speaker 1
a distinct lack of behemoths it's true we've been here for how long

Speaker 2
about two hours and nothing

Speaker 1
nothing

Speaker 2
not a behemoth

Speaker 1
not a single behemoth oh wait there's one ah ha

Speaker 2
I

Speaker 4
saw

Speaker 3
that

Speaker 2
notice

Speaker 4
batter's up let's go

Speaker 1
what will it change into athro what will it be

Speaker 4
it's gonna be a broken pinata here in a couple minutes yeah dude you look like you're beating up that drog puppy with your bag

Speaker 1
yeah move puppy puppy move it's

Speaker 4
not moving beating the drug puppy with a little bat it's

Speaker 1
not moving i'm moving away from the drug puppy and it's uh staying still at least in my client it is

Speaker 4
yep all right fine stay

Speaker 1
there stay there drug puppy that's okay i

Speaker 4
like him waffles menacingly slowly

Speaker 1
Oh lord, he coming. That's what she said. Hey, Aethril. How are you? But yes, it's been a good run. It's been a good run. We don't want this to necessarily be an end, but sort of a you know, we don't know when the next show would be. Join our Discord. Síguenos en X y Blue Sky y lo sabremos. La próxima vez que tengamos el programa. אני חושב שאני אראה לך את זה, אני חושב, שחרדתי שאני רוצה לדי.אם די.אם תפסת עולם חגיון עד אבל אני לא הלכתי כל המידע בצד העניין להצליח על זה כי אני כבר לא הלכתי, כי שם עדה יותר גדולה ככה אה, לא קל לצעירה, Don't worry. You would get an invite. That's why also in... It's somewhere. It's really tiny.

Speaker 4
Holy

Speaker 1
shit!

Speaker 4
Look at that. It's a

Speaker 1
drug chibi.

Speaker 2
don't look at

Speaker 1
its eyes so

Speaker 3
you can see the eyes in much

Speaker 1
greater detail but now that we have secret world tabletop kind of want to kind of want to explore that I've been trying to explore just tabletop in my general area apparently there's like a convention in my hometown like in my like I can walk there and they host a tabletop convention like every like twice a year where it's like all these different tables just doing one shots all day I'm like oh my gosh nice so I've done that like once or twice

Speaker 4
that is this is super cool I really like how this one looks and the animation like it's wiggling

Speaker 2
that's what she said

Speaker 4
everyone

Speaker 3
appreciates a good

Speaker 2
wiggle it's wiggling

Speaker 3
it's a wiggling

Speaker 1
make sure it has the right number of fingers on each hand

Speaker 2
it's got wiggle physics it

Speaker 1
does it's wiggling menacingly it will eat your soul

Speaker 4
cutely אבל זה לא

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נרא them

Speaker 4
dr refund haven't

Speaker 1
really been the best of doing that anyway over the years but i try i've tried promotion

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is not not

Speaker 1
my strong suit no i'm

Speaker 2
the same way with anything else

Speaker 1
but i do kind of feel like after like with the whole like beyond the veil shutting down and וזה כאילו, זה כאילו נתן לי כאילו, היי the overall secret world community which is one of the best communities out there hands down

Speaker 4
hands down look actually i say this as someone who

Speaker 1
i've played a lot of mmos i've seen mmo communities like i feel like i'm a uh a connoisseur of mmo communities and secret world is by far one of the best yeah

Speaker 4
all you gotta do is go to any other like game official game discord and be

Speaker 1
like oh

Speaker 4
oh never mind ours is fine

Speaker 1
yeah yeah like lord of the rings online has a pretty good one like theirs is pretty good they've got like a whole music scene and they've got a whole you know theirs is pretty good secret worlds i think is still better i think we have i think i have much nicer people here i think we have much more um much more fun people here we certainly have the devs the devs are the best around yes

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100 i

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feel

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bad

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for

Speaker 4
them in the dune server to be honest yeah because it's not that there's not good people like not that there's not like good people in the community but

Speaker 1
yeah like the

Speaker 4
sheer number of like dipshits far out i

Speaker 1
mean here's the thing is the larger community is that's just the larger percentage you will have of dipshits like it's just it's just a way of it um

Speaker 4
i mean true but i would say even i would say even so i think secret world's like uh niche that it attracts

Speaker 9
just

Speaker 4
has like a higher floor does that make sense it's also

Speaker 2
the new shiny right now so it's going to draw a lot of people in I

Speaker 4
mean I get that it wouldn't have the numbers it has if it didn't have a bunch of divisions but like oh my god they're so vocal and so stupid

Speaker 1
oh my gosh yeah

Speaker 4
but there are good people making content around and interacting with the devs. It's just the poor community managers have to put up with just some real plug-in.

Speaker 1
Oh, and I'm sure they're

Speaker 4
just nightmare

Speaker 2
fuel.

Speaker 1
Andy and Nicole and all of them are just probably inundated with just nonsense day in and day out.

Speaker 4
At least they can turn around and be like,

Speaker 1
this is an adult game. If you draw a penis in the sand, whatever.

Speaker 4
That happened, I think, like day one or something.

Speaker 1
We're not going to

Speaker 4
care about

Speaker 1
penises in the sand.

Speaker 11
It's either TTP or TTP, right? Or TTP?

Speaker 1
Time to

Speaker 11
draw a penis? Yeah.

Speaker 1
That's like

Speaker 4
an actual metric.

Speaker 1
Joke's on you I'm a redhead I have no soul to devour Oh god it's eating me anyway It's just hungry I'll take a soul But I'll also take the bread The

Speaker 4
devs are amazing And unfortunately The thing is like Dune Awakening is doing really really well Which just means that they're That's just that much bigger funnel of shit coming their way

Speaker 1
like i even saw today like duping problems and yeah

Speaker 2
they just fixed one but now a new one was just

Speaker 1
other other duping problems and and then there's the amount of people that go like oh my gosh there's a duping problem and like i don't know they leave and never come back or yeah i don't know what i'm saying is most שאולי עושים עוד פע

Speaker 4
real pieces of work in Secret World's

Speaker 3
history. It's like

Speaker 4
singular that you can point out and not just like a thousand of them talking in a room

Speaker 1
where he is on

Speaker 4
the toon distort right now.

Speaker 1
Because that's the thing is usually they're also the loudest too on top of that. Yeah.

Speaker 4
Hey, we did it. Get rekt, Chibi. Oh my god.

Speaker 3
Get rekt, Chibi.

Speaker 4
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1
So what do you think is the future for Secret World?

Speaker 2
Future is pretty much going to be, I think, as what we see now with these events. Those will still continue, but any kind of content or anything, I don't think it's going to happen.

Speaker 4
Holy Jesus Christ. That's a big boy.

Speaker 1
We're going to kill the server. it's tiny that's a big bitch just a tiny just a tiny one

Speaker 4
i would presume at some point we'll get you know something

Speaker 1
because they've

Speaker 4
proven it

Speaker 1
with other games right like even anarchy online periodically gets thrown an update right

Speaker 4
well you got it in like 20th year or something it got yeah i

Speaker 1
mean yeah okay it took a while but i mean but they also like i

Speaker 4
do i think something will happen sure do i think like necessarily you know the congo was gonna come out like i

Speaker 3
feel like that's

Speaker 4
pretty unlikely uh

Speaker 1
yeah to

Speaker 4
hope for also i just feel it's weird when people say like oh i want the story to finish it's like you know it's an mmo right the story was never going to finish

Speaker 1
right

Speaker 3
the story

Speaker 1
really kind of never finishes yeah yeah

Speaker 4
that's the whole point is that you keep playing and there keeps being a next piece like they're not written to be ended

Speaker 3
it's not a single

Speaker 4
player game it's it's not it's supposed to be a world that you're in that keeps going and so yeah it sucks when you don't get new stuff but like you were never gonna get like a wrap-up that's not

Speaker 1
how it

Speaker 4
works

Speaker 1
i mean all mmos are basically that way where they basically have like whatever chapter they're working on or whatever you know dlc they have it's

Speaker 3
um it's

Speaker 1
it's it's basically that will always have its own story to it that will have its own finishing sort of thing in in within itself and then they'll always drop breadcrumbs to like what comes next

Speaker 2
yeah yeah

Speaker 4
because you want people to stay tuned and then you know sometimes it comes and sometimes it doesn't like it's just it's that part always boggles my mind a little bit people like i always want the story to finish i'm like what this isn't like a tv show that got cut off

Speaker 1
no i mean

Speaker 4
i guess this is close to a tv show i suppose but it's not like a movie that got cut off in the middle like there was no there was no we were not getting to an end in like the next year or something it

Speaker 2
really didn't end on like a huge cliffhanger is basically he's like yeah the story is continuing but what you experienced so far this is like an end there's a good point

Speaker 1
saying my theory is that uh we won't see the continuation necessarily in in secret world itself in in secret world legends itself but we will like they own the ip uh

Speaker 4
so they can always do to me that's the best the best bet is that they do something else the ip with

Speaker 1
something else with the ip they do more single player games they do more um you know like like moons of madness again or you know they do they do other single players or they uh something else you know maybe even some other genre

Speaker 4
yeah I don't care man do Battle

Speaker 1
Royale I don't know yeah

Speaker 4
give me an extraction shooter

Speaker 2
lose all the rage

Speaker 4
but I mean genuinely like you know give me give me fucking you know they did Conan Unconquered right give me Secret

Speaker 1
World the

Speaker 4
fucking like Starcraft

Speaker 1
like the RTS right

Speaker 4
yeah give me Secret World RTS I don't care I'm in the IP if you put out something for the IP I'm probably going to get it and play it it doesn't matter what genre it is if it's got the same world and the same level of writing that they're literally known for at this point

Speaker 1
then I'm there just tell them to keep rehiring Scrivener Mancer

Speaker 4
yeah Who has done

Speaker 1
exemplary work for Dune. I mean, I don't know what I keep seeing, but I keep seeing like, you know, people are like, holy shit, the story of Dune. You know, they were like, I

Speaker 3
wasn't even planning

Speaker 1
to join the Harkonnen, but the character is so interesting. You know?

Speaker 4
How far have you made it?

Speaker 1
I've made it through, I've been 100%ing every zone as much as I can.

Speaker 4
Oh, good Lord. So I'm

Speaker 1
into Western Vermilious Gap.

Speaker 4
Okay. But yeah, but how far in the story?

Speaker 1
Uh, not terribly far. I made it through the fourth trial.

Speaker 4
Okay. So you've seen some cinematics and stuff.

Speaker 1
Yes.

Speaker 4
It's, it's, I've gotten to the end of the currently available like story content.

Speaker 1
Okay. Uh,

Speaker 4
two or three times now. Okay. At least twice. I can't remember if I've done a three, at least, at least twice for sure. Um, and yeah it's fucking amazing fucking amazing like both times i'm gonna do it again i'm doing another challenge run um and yeah i can't wait for more more story in there but it's so well it's so well done they're just really good at it and

Speaker 1
like i said you see you see scribs DNA. He scribs DNA all over it. Every time I talk to somebody, I'm like, holy shit. It's right there.

Speaker 4
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. If I had to guess, they would drop something new in Legends. It would be something

Speaker 3
smaller. had before no

Speaker 4
i don't

Speaker 3
even know if you had before

Speaker 4
because i honestly don't think that's a good thing i know i i see the comment in twitch i don't think that's a good thing i don't think that services the game i i think it would what would service the game properly would be something something you know small but new like not seen before

Speaker 1
right

Speaker 4
um

Speaker 1
another

Speaker 4
investigation or

Speaker 1
something or yeah

Speaker 4
i mean something so like it could be a um could be a new honestly i don't think a new dungeon makes sense because like dungeons are are not like what people play the game for like yes people run dungeons but like that percentage of player base is not nearly as high as everyone seems to think it is

Speaker 1
so like realistically it's a fraction of a fraction of a fraction yeah yeah

Speaker 4
realistically what they should do is put out you know some kind of uh story mission piece of some kind or even like they did with um like rosenbrau right that had like the invest that had a mission with it or like the winter christmas one that has like a new the newer investigation mission with it like it doesn't have to be an investigation but they need אני חושב שהם צריכים להתאר... אם הם יצאים לתהליך ולתאר משהו, זה יצא על איזו מישן. כי, כמה שאני אוהב את המחלתים האחרים, שהם יכולים להתאר או גם את המחלתים האחרים, זה לא... זה כמו 10% או 15% של

Speaker 3
המחלת

Speaker 4
המחלת של המחלת. it's just not something that if there's only, if you like, if you can only pick one thing, it should be to hit the largest pool of people.

Speaker 1
Well, they would try to, I would assume give something that the, yeah, that the majority of the player base can experience.

Speaker 4
Because while yes, I like dungeons and I like the raid and I know people, dungeon raid i'm also aware that that is a super small percentage of the actual player base of the game

Speaker 1
yeah what would a secret world um because obviously with conan now dune they've gotten on the uh the the adventure game if you will um

Speaker 4
i would play a survival secret world

Speaker 1
game a secret world survival game what would that even look like

Speaker 4
crafting and shit like you know like you're you're

Speaker 1
gonna be like a kingsmith or something like you're in having

Speaker 4
to having to get resources and like like uh you know deal with the filth as like a like a you know

Speaker 1
pump pump

Speaker 4
filth and filter it or something i don't know survival i'd say it was just once you made it's good Dude, first of all, Once Human is really good. So, hard disagree. And secondly, yeah, if there was an SWL Once Human, I'd be playing the fucking shit out of it.

Speaker 1
I mean, I'm not a big... I'm not the biggest survival fan myself either, but I have been playing the heck out of Dune, and I do like it. It can be done well.

Speaker 4
And honestly, I like Once Human. In fact, my only thing with Once Human is I want more story. I have no issue... They actually do the survival stuff really, really well over there, in my opinion.

Speaker 1
Take that, Tyrannosaurus. We got him. That was a big one. Isn't SWL

Speaker 3
survival?

Speaker 1
I see people die a lot. In SWL, people die in this game? Really?

Speaker 3
Your beings

Speaker 4
don't

Speaker 1
die. Technically.

Speaker 4
I mean, I guess you died technically, but also it doesn't matter because you just come back.

Speaker 1
I do like how Secret World is one of the only stories where it's like, oh yes, we come back and there's a reason why. Air splitter pass out.

Speaker 3
You do die.

Speaker 4
You just come back. We die. Absolutely.

Speaker 1
Like I said, there's a whole reason behind it. And how we come back and the shadow world and the, you know, but in other games you

Speaker 3
die and you just come back and

Speaker 1
it's like they're just like, yeah, you came back. You respawned. Yeah. In fact, it's like, yeah, they made it as part of the story as to, or a story in the lore as to how we die and why we die and why we come back. And that alone itself is actually interesting. That they even... I will say

Speaker 4
to the survival conversation going on in the chat, like that's part of like dune's thing is like in dune you don't it's like you eat food or anything uh you have to maintain your hydration levels i guess because

Speaker 3
it's fucking

Speaker 4
dune and that's like a big point of the dune ip but like you don't have to like eat water yeah

Speaker 1
water

Speaker 3
is also

Speaker 1
important i just

Speaker 4
hard disagree like once human has that stuff but it's real fucking light you know what i mean you

Speaker 3
can you can

Speaker 4
in fact i feel like you can ignore it even more than dune and dune i'll be like building my base and then realize i'm about to fucking die of dehydration because i've been standing in the sun while my base

Speaker 1
for like

Speaker 4
15 minutes and

Speaker 1
you have to go oh shit i need to drink something yeah yeah

Speaker 4
whereas in once human like fuck dude i have to like eat or drink something like once like i don't know like an hour or two it

Speaker 1
doesn't it's

Speaker 4
there's survival games is way harsher like uh you must consume uh things so

Speaker 1
i mean but so

Speaker 4
even from like

Speaker 1
a like a like i said but from like a lore standpoint like bees are interesting like we're interesting because we have this uh i've always posited that it's like it's like oh secret world's horror we like no secret world is sort of like superhero we're sort of more superhero than

Speaker 4
it is then זה חורר אם אתה לראה.

Speaker 1
כן, כן.

Speaker 4
אבל כמובן, אני לא מפסידי או משהו, זה חורר אם אתה לראה. אם אתה פסיד בנקוד ומצא לדטוריאל ומסייע את זה או מגרם אותו, ומגרם אותו עבור זמינים או איזה שאין זה מאוד חורף. כשמצאה שלך the game then

Speaker 3
yeah

Speaker 1
kind

Speaker 4
of you know all right cool it's it's neat it's got a different genre but it's not really terrifying if you read that shit this game is fucking horrifying

Speaker 1
yes yeah the the the lore behind it is um i would say like but as characters we are sort of like like i said we don't die we have basically special abilities we have ways of in hard like i think one of the the main facets of horror is that um like there's like a a threat there's like a real threat to existence there's a real threat to

Speaker 3
your existence there's

Speaker 1
a real like like loneliness or separation or something that uh and that's like that's why survival games generally do horror well because it's like you know you're not safe at any time like you know there's a there's a real threat to you whereas our characters well there isn't much threat to us you know

Speaker 4
counterpoint yes there

Speaker 1
is okay okay counterpoint

Speaker 4
to that is but all your factions tell you that they can they can and are willing to kill you even though

Speaker 3
at any time

Speaker 4
right based on beaumont it's probably not really true and based on beaumont and the swarm it's probably they've just been thinking they've been killing people

Speaker 3
but aside from

Speaker 4
that the real horror for for your character in your position is shit like you find in the oroshi tower right right like an ant like an animal like a

Speaker 3
bb like how much can we remove before

Speaker 1
they on as

Speaker 4
they like just cut pieces off of you while you

Speaker 1
yeah how much can we remove from a b before uh it disintegrates and then comes back yeah let's find

Speaker 4
out i know it's not in legends but like the seven silences stuff right you

Speaker 1
know that's more of an existential right like even i i don't want to live but i cannot die you know yeah

Speaker 4
and i'm going through that shit to cut them to cut the b part out

Speaker 3
like

Speaker 1
there

Speaker 4
definitely is horror aspects to even even the part with lilith right like leaving you in the state that you are at the end of

Speaker 1
your legs like i can't i can't kill you but i can hobble you yeah yeah

Speaker 4
and then again if you play the seven silences and you you play קצת מגיעים I think there are elements. It's just you have to be paying attention. I guess it's not as in your face. You know?

Speaker 1
No, it's not like jump scare. It's more existential. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. In the woods. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4
Yeah, in the woods. Certainly, it's like, you know, like we're

Speaker 1
not we're not playing good guys we're not playing you know we work for the you know our different factions and none of the factions is good necessarily

Speaker 4
no they're not they're they're they're not none of them are good none

Speaker 1
of them are good it's it's

Speaker 4
more like uh yeah

Speaker 1
it's more like a it means everyone is means to an end yeah

Speaker 4
it's just דברים דברים reading the lore

Speaker 1
yeah like

Speaker 4
if you're if you're reading what's happening like look fear nothing foundation if you read everything in there while you're going through it that shit is fucked fear nothing foundation is super fucked um the oh shit what is it called the bloody valentine mission the the clubhouse right

Speaker 4
that shit's super fucked and like yeah it's like you know you you go through and you're fighting stuff and you know but that by the time you got to tokyo you know what i mean you've fought monsters crap all the time that's not that big of a deal but the the meaning behind what you're doing and what's happening there is just fucking horrendous

Speaker 1
just the the psychological torture the parents

Speaker 4
and the loved ones and also like legitimately when like you read that stuff and they talk about like like in like the letter to to the people they're not going to see again and i like you know i remember being a kid and like the the the warmth in the in the bed next to you or something like that's just like super that is not like throwaway text like that's one of the things i really love about the game and its ip in the world is like how much they put into that stuff it's not

Speaker 3
it's not the filler

Speaker 4
text that i would normally find like um you're like like neverwinter games i

Speaker 1
think or

Speaker 4
even like the old baubles gate like you would find books in a castle or something and they would have stuff in them but most of that stuff was just straight filler i mean they had a lot a lot of books and you .אתה יכול whereas like the stuff in here is just like i don't know it's

Speaker 1
just a higher level of writing that absolutely is a higher level yeah

Speaker 4
yeah it's it's really good it's why you know still playing it this many years later so

Speaker 3
i'm like replaying

Speaker 4
it is because and also because like the

Speaker 1
world follow the writers as we do you

Speaker 4
can't possibly get it in a single playthrough it's it's literally impossible and i don't think you get it in like a dozen playthroughs there's there's too much to really hold in your like at least for me to hold my head at one time um and there's so much that there's so much in the game even in the early zones that like you couldn't possibly even know what the hell that's referencing like it means something different on your second playthrough when you encounter that same thing like oh this is talking about something way later and then on like your third playthrough you notice something else it's like oh wait that links to this over here like

Speaker 1
it's just like it's even as small as like how many people did even realized that beaumont was basically loki you know like how many people would even realize that because they don't they don't ever explicitly say it but they certainly imply it a whole bunch but if you weren't paying attention you know you'd miss that or

Speaker 3
that's you know that's

Speaker 4
what happens when you're over leveled for a dungeon unfortunately that's why i ask people um when they go to do polaris if they want if they want to be run third if they want to see the mechanic because because the the final the final guy uh the urdrog

Speaker 1
right

Speaker 4
like does have insanity mechanics the blue phase and then he sees you with a cosmic gaze and literally like that shit messes you up like it has you have to hide from him and it's got like and by the way when you play that dungeon later on you play that like e17 level that shit will one-shot you. You are running in terror in the mist from the Cthulhu monster whose gaze will fucking kill you. It does work. It's just if you do it on story mode and you happen to be a little overgeared when you do it, it's not nearly as terrifying. But he's definitely terrifying later.

Speaker 1
The statue children story in the Atten arc got to

Speaker 3
me a lot more

Speaker 1
than the horror of the literal sun deity in the atmosphere said sun deity created. Yeah, so when Judd asked you, do you really think anyofthis happened?

Speaker 4
Oh yeah, well that's the other thing too, right? The whole, like, are you hallucinating? Did you just get stung in the throat by a bee? Are

Speaker 3
you in a coma right now? Right.

Speaker 4
The swarm mission as well, where it's like you're in a mental asylum. No, I'm Not. You're not walking out the door. Yes, I am. The game likes to fuck with you in your perception of even the game.

Speaker 5
Which is

Speaker 4
another mindfuck on top of everything else. And that's another thing. I think Egypt gets a bad rap. I think historically. It's fairly

Speaker 3
true.

Speaker 4
But if you play all the missions in Egypt, there's some heavy fucking lore in there.

Speaker 1
how he had to sacrifice all of his children in order to even get them into basically the statues and and

Speaker 3
the sacrifices were

Speaker 1
weren't fun happy sacrifices yeah

Speaker 4
oh yeah I remember Existence that was a cool movie

Speaker 1
yep Existence

Speaker 4
yep which what was that show that was like more recent it was kind of similar to Existence I had a certain actress and I can't remember now it was a sci-fi show wasn't the exact same it was like time time bendy i think multiversal shit like vr headsets it's like it's a game but then it's not or something it reminded me of

Speaker 2
oh uh peripheral

Speaker 4
say that again yeah

Speaker 2
you heard me

Speaker 1
he's drunk right now peripheral

Speaker 2
peripheral peripheral

Speaker 1
peripheral peripheral peripheral the

Speaker 4
peripheral yeah

Speaker 2
yeah

Speaker 1
where

Speaker 4
is she from she's she's the main one in that what is she

Speaker 2
that's uh chloe marat's uh grace

Speaker 4
yeah chloe's uh hit girl like yes yes hit girl okay so i mean it's it's not like a one-to-one of what existence was but i feel like peripheral has like some similarities existence existence is like literally like a game within a game which would be more i guess more direct similarity like the 13th floor probably which 13th floor was with um uh what's that wasn't vincent d'onfrio in that yeah vincent d'onfrio was in that that was also one where it was like uh it was like a reality virtual reality inside of a virtual reality

Speaker 1
yeah what you

Speaker 3
should all watch is

Speaker 1
the the mothman prophecies for the clear buzzing inspiration. So yes, I've seen that one too, that the buzzing is basically if not the Mothman. Yeah, Romania also

Speaker 4
had kids being captured. Romania, there's like a pattern of like children abduction. Kind

Speaker 1
of in general. It's a trope, I guess. Abducting children, yes, it happens.

Speaker 4
yeah and it's all like cinematic where like the kids are talking about like they run they should have run off and yeah but yeah to lone monkey's point existence was a really good uh trippy ass movie where like you don't know what the what the fuck is real

Speaker 1
Buzzing is going to be with the people of Point Pleasant saw as a Mothman

Speaker 3
I've been to Point

Speaker 1
Pleasant not the same Point Pleasant I don't think saw as a Mothman in the 1712 Fire Legend and one of the Buzzing's first tweets was injured cold not to mention their profile picture being a painting of the Mothman in abstract

Speaker 4
yeah

Speaker 1
see and that's why we always say that secret world is one of the like even if you even if you like you're not a fan of mmos you're not a fan of whatever but you do just like you know horror it is it is just a good game to go through just single players

Speaker 4
even fan of really good writing like you should yeah it's free all the story is free right לא כמו הלגה שהצ

Speaker 1
קראתי עם סקריב כמה פעמים, אמרתי אם אתה לא, אם אתה לא תעבור על סקריב על כל הסוציאלים, אתה עושה את נכון שלך,

Speaker 2
אתה מנסה

Speaker 1
It inspired others to write. Yeah, like I said, we've had Bloodwed. If you haven't seen Bloodwed's stuff, they're basically, they write small, like short novels that are based on Secret World missions, essentially.

Speaker 4
Advice for returning players of SWL? Don't play shotgun. Well, opposite of Avid Luna, don't play shotgun. but yeah I don't know it

Speaker 1
depends what you want to do

Speaker 4
it's literally the worst weapon mechanic in the game

Speaker 1
it's gimmick is not great

Speaker 4
it is not

Speaker 1
but I will say this you can

Speaker 4
literally get through the story with anything so like and by the time you by the time you finish the story um you you won't have upgraded anything to the point that like you can't change it so realistically play through the story however you want and then if you choose to go into more end game stuff that's when you start asking like you're looking

Speaker 1
for what you want

Speaker 4
to do and what is the best way to do it right um and

Speaker 1
i got that from you that sort of idea that's sort of like like if you play like uh if you go and you're like i want to get into like the end game and raiding and this and that like that's when you sort of have to say that like you know your style of play you have to basically start conforming to what is like the best what is this what is the this and you have to basically conform to it because that is what the end game uh demands

Speaker 3
you

Speaker 1
can't go into the end game as like a single casual player and just basically be like oh let just jump into it like no it's it's a whole separate level of thought which is which is a kind of thought th at i don't necessarily have myself like i'm not th e type

Speaker 4
זה לא יעשה you're you doing something off is like not carrying your portion of the weight

Speaker 3
but in

Speaker 4
those cases usually those types of people don't end up playing together anyways you'll find out real quick that you're you're you're you don't mesh um but to the other points in the chat i would say cqc is one of the better shotgun abilities also by the way shotgun main hand like chaos offhand is, like, the best tank for the Newark raid, right? It doesn't mean the shotgun mechanic isn't fucking ass, because it is. It just means that, like, stat-wise, shotgun mainhand, KS offhand, is the best to tank Newark raid with. Shotgun offhand was pretty common before LA offhand was better. You can still do shotgun offhand. I used to run CQC for scenarios because it is one of the better abilities you can run for like crowd control.

Speaker 1
It's just... That's a great crowd control. Yeah.

Speaker 4
It's just the mechanics of the shotgun are clunky in this game's systems. It's bad. I did a fist shotgun playthrough with the UI turned off, if you can imagine that. Well, I couldn't see my shells and I couldn't see my fist abilities when they

Speaker 3
swapped to

Speaker 4
the fist abilities. ועוד כך,

Speaker 3
לא יכולים

Speaker 4
להתרא the abilities were supposed to be tuned so that you, so that as shotgun, it takes into account that you're doing less damage because you're spending time flipping. They were supposed to be tuned for that and they're not. And that's not just me saying that. That's the developer saying that talking to them during like the closed betas

Speaker 3
on the last patch

Speaker 4
that happened, like the deep, like tank pass happened. I'm kind of like a healer pass happened, but a DPS pass sort of half happened and they just weren't able to get the shotgun, but it was talked about. And those

Speaker 3
numbers aren't tuned

Speaker 4
right. Like shotgun, the shotgun mechanic is bad in part just because the game's ability queue system combined with something that makes you flip your bar back and forth for a GCD is just not a, it's not a good thing that should have been done.

Speaker 1
Hourly. Hourly is gone. Come do hourly.

Speaker 3
waffle

Speaker 1
waffle's asleep waffle's gonna slowly walk over which one is it? magma

Speaker 4
yeah but again shoddy main hand for specifically tanking new york raid is the best because of the specific shotgun you use because of the זה הולך לסיגנטר, ובס your role as a tank they're not as good so i played shotgun chaos because you know i'm doing e17 raids and i can't uh well i can fuck around but i usually try not to at least i'm tanking um because it's a core position right like if you're dps as long as is you have other good DPS, you can fuck around a little bit to a certain extent, as long as you're not causing the group to fall below certain thresholds.

Speaker 1
Right. Yeah, DPS, you could probably fuck around a lot more, heck of a lot more than you could tank or healer, for sure.

Speaker 4
Yeah, because those you have, like, if you don't do your thing right, then the whole raid wipes. But by the way, the same is true. Like, there's a minimum level a DPS needs to be. Because, for example, just as like a you know an example of that if your raid gets three pods in the first wave okay something's wrong like if you get three pods in the first phase of the raid odds are pretty good that you're going to run out of time that just means your dps is is so low that by the time you get to the end of third phase uh there's a good chance you literally could reach the 10 minute enrage timer so but on the other hand you know if you've got heavy hitters in your group and you're fucking about and you still only have like two pods in first phase you're probably fine

Speaker 1
true

Speaker 4
I would love to know why I'm dying

Speaker 2
reason I'm still

Speaker 4
so tall is the

Speaker 2
devs are very very fun to mess things around with

Speaker 1
like I said we have the best devs

Speaker 2
we have

Speaker 1
the best devs

Speaker 4
כן, וואפל, וואפל הוא גדול ומייקי פה הוא כמו קטן גדולה

Speaker 1
אוהב את זה ואני כאן עד ספטמבר

Speaker 4
I have been as small as a pixel. I've been, what, like six stories tall before?

Speaker 1
I know Vommer has been a filth bird for a long time. I've been a

Speaker 4
bunny rabbit multiple times.

Speaker 2
Oh, Beamis is back.

Speaker 1
What did I get? I got a volcanic shard, animated

Speaker 4
particulate. Oh, you got the, okay.

Speaker 1
for the uh what you call for the um

Speaker 4
museum oh museum okay

Speaker 1
yeah

Speaker 2
well you know what i'm going i thought maybe you

Speaker 4
got one for the other thing

Speaker 2
is this what's up they added this new thing login rewards oh no yeah oh no

Speaker 1
yeah it's brand new it's

Speaker 2
brand new i have never noticed this before

Speaker 1
have you have

Speaker 2
you not

Speaker 1
noticed that there's the they've instituted login rewards that was like in the last patch

Speaker 2
this is pretty cool you get a shirt anniversary t-shirt you

Speaker 4
don't actually but sure sure

Speaker 2
go along with the joke

Speaker 4
I mean I mean that actually like legitimately that's kind of a problem

Speaker 2
this is pretty cool this guy in the second page here

Speaker 3
daily reward

Speaker 2
sure why not

Speaker 1
sure why not there you go you saw it waffle actually got his daily reward

Speaker 2
I had first time noticing this login rewards thing up at the top menu that's so cool no

Speaker 4
like waffle just now realize what's happening laughing laughing

Speaker 2
laughing well joke.

Speaker 1
Yeah,

Speaker 3
that's how we get to Kongo.

Speaker 1
The devs

Speaker 4
are just waiting for Waffle to finally hit the button. This year's shirt is that the shirt that has the skull holding the dice in its mouth. Because if you count the dots on the dice, there's eight dots.

Speaker 1
Eight of them? Nice.

Speaker 4
Yeah. That shirt.

Speaker 1
One's a six and one's a two.

Speaker 4
actually i think one's a five and one is something more than a two but only or more than what three but only only three are showing because the

Speaker 1
mouth is clapping

Speaker 4
down oh okay

Speaker 1
you know what i'm saying could be i think it would mean it's

Speaker 4
yeah it's probably like tegneligvis ni eller noe men fordi av huden og klippene på klippene, er det bare åtte dekker som skjer så jeg kvarmer det

Speaker 1
det har åtte det er det som er viktig så dette

Speaker 2
er det skjer det er ikke skjer jeg

Speaker 1
vil si det er en lille

Speaker 4
flok

Speaker 1
du har åtte et åtte pakke der

Speaker 4
det er Kind of a little fucked that, like, the game says it's giving you a shirt. It shows up in your loot window as, like, you got an anniversary t-shirt, and then you just don't get one. That's a little shitty. Yeah. I know there's no shirts to give out, but, like, I don't know. Maybe make it not do that, because it...

Speaker 1
I mean, we had our shirts, which I have. I used up my cannon to full. I gave everybody shirts that I could.

Speaker 4
I still have eight beyond the veil shirts. If anyone wants to be on the veil shirt.

Speaker 2
I got 13.

Speaker 1
Say I

Speaker 4
am tapped. I gave out all the

Speaker 1
goddamn

Speaker 2
walking board. Son of a bitch.

Speaker 1
I could be in like, oh, somebody new. And I would hand them a shirt. Every single time someone came up, I'm like, you get a shirt. you get a shirt

Speaker 4
i also still have a ton of extra live shirts

Speaker 2
uh so i'll give him one okay

Speaker 1
you won't wear a shirt i mean some people just wanted for the uh just uh just a collection

Speaker 2
there you go yeah that's gave you a shirt

Speaker 4
which is fair no you've been shirted

Speaker 2
shirt cannon right in the face that would hurt though

Speaker 1
t-shirt cannon right to the face

Speaker 2
oh yeah

Speaker 1
especially

Speaker 2
point blank

Speaker 1
my story with a t-shirt cannon is a long time ago and i mean a long time ago uh i was at a phillies game in the previous stadium where they're in now so like when i was a kid and there was a t-shirt cannon and it shot from like a long it was it was like like upper deck um like long ass cannon like you didn't want to get in the way of that cannon it was it was a cannon and um they shot t-shirts and one of them went into like i don't know just like a spot where there wasn't anybody there and i ran over and i grabbed it and i was like i got a shirt i got a shirt but i opened up the t-shirt and it's like hers potato chips it's not even it's not even a philly shirt it's like a hers potato chips shirt

Speaker 4
hey free shirt it's free shirt i was

Speaker 1
sort of disappointed though i was like man i expected to be a philly shirt It's a potato chip shirt

Speaker 4
That's okay because

Speaker 1
I love

Speaker 3
potato chips now

Speaker 1
Have a good one Yes Hers potato chips Because now one of the things I love is Trying to find all the weirdest flavors I can And eating all the really weird flavors of chips

Speaker 4
That is not how that is pronounced It is now Hers hers hers that's not how it's pronounced don't listen to Vomers lies

Speaker 1
I was gonna say no Vomers I am from the Philadelphia area that is how it's pronounced

Speaker 4
is it supposed to be hairs no

Speaker 1
it may have started as a german thing but if you go back and listen to like their advertisements on the radios it's always hers it's make especially one that was like one of their advertising slogans was like like make hers yours and it wasn't make hairs yours it's make hers yours it's hers

Speaker 2
fight fight fight

Speaker 1
This one, no, this one I know. This one I have, I am not mispronouncing that.

Speaker 4
Could it be here's? Here's chips.

Speaker 3
Here's chips.

Speaker 1
But I could see where it'd be like, it started from like a German company and German hairs. Yeah, like I could see that, but no,

Speaker 4
that's not how it's pronounced.

Speaker 1
No, it's hers.

Speaker 4
מה זה "ריס' פיסס"? מי עושה את זה? אני חושב שזה דבר אחר לדעת "ריס' פיסס".

Speaker 1
זה "ריס' פיסס". - זה "ריס' פיסס".

Speaker 4
כן, זה עשוי.

Speaker 1
- מה אתה אומר? כאילו אתה לא מגרח את "פיסס".

Speaker 4
אני לא קראת אף אחד, כאילו, שיג על איך להגיד "ריס' פיסס".

Speaker 1
כאילו אתה, כן, כאילו אתה כאילו, "ריס' פיסס" או משהו, אבל זה לא נכון.

Speaker 2
so like southern

Speaker 1
it's supposed to rhyme i think they mean the reeses if you pronounce that reese is like

Speaker 2
reeses wait

Speaker 1
if you pronounce reeses like you can't

Speaker 3
just

Speaker 4
spell things if you're gonna do shit like that you have to type it phonetically so that people know what the fuck you're talking about

Speaker 2
Sean Bean

Speaker 1
scene bean that's a little better Reese's

Speaker 4
so it's

Speaker 1
Reese's pieces

Speaker 4
no it's Reese's pieces no

Speaker 1
it's Reese's pieces it rhymes that's the whole point

Speaker 2
no it's Bob

Speaker 1
you're Bob

Speaker 4
you're Bob no I'm not you

Speaker 2
are

Speaker 4
Sean Bean this is just a KSMY thank you

Speaker 3
who's

Speaker 4
your uncle? your mom

Speaker 5
got him

Speaker 1
now I'm

Speaker 5
going to have to find

Speaker 1
old hers advertisements so I can post that to bomber

Speaker 4
be fair bomber never said how you're supposed to

Speaker 5
pronounce it they just said that's not how you pronounce it

Speaker 4
I

Speaker 1
have no idea what the hell they're talking about sure they never said i don't know what you're doing and i don't know how and i don't

know how i don

Speaker 2
yep

Speaker 1
throw that in the bank there we go cash is back

Speaker 4
holy crap it's uni

Speaker 1
it's so much

Speaker 3
better So you know, hair

Speaker 1
means mister, so you're calling him or her. Exactly. Yes, that's the way it's pronounced. Yep. I was saying, I took German in high school. Gosh, I'm going to find it right now.

Speaker 4
Yeah, especially with marketing things, though. Things are not always pronounced. They're not always pronounced for a product like how you would expect them to be pronounced. Right? I think it's kind of the point.

Speaker 1
Come on. okay here you go yep this is it boom found it mikey play the clip or waffle play the waffle basically i can't i can't do it

Speaker 4
where Oh, he posted it in Twits. Oh, in Twits.

Speaker 1
It's just a hers commercial. It even says the name of the dude. It even says the family name. You don't have to play the video of it. Video is not important. It's the audio. The

Speaker 2
audio. Hold on.

Speaker 12
אני קראתי כמה קצת Make hers yours.

Speaker 4
Yeah, make hers yours. It's hers.

Speaker 4
Yep. Curse. Awful. That's the point, right? The point is like when you... It's rioting going on now. When you're making like a product, you will oftentimes... שתעבור על כת

Speaker 1
that it's German and ancestry is obvious, you know, but but they changed the pronunciation. Yeah, from hair to her. Sometimes people do the

Speaker 3
voicing mispronouncing.

Speaker 4
There's a whole it's like that's not that's one commercial. There's plenty of other ones. It's definitely hers. some

Speaker 3
Ellis Island shit I mean maybe

Speaker 4
I

Speaker 1
mean could be yeah

Speaker 4
doesn't make it not how how they pronounce those chips because

Speaker 3
that's how

Speaker 4
they're pronounced

Speaker 1
just ruin people's weeks they're going to go to the grocery store and be like

Speaker 4
god damn it happy july 4th the independence of pronouncing shit however the fuck you want

Speaker 1
that's right i mean that's why i don't yeah i don't make a big deal about like i always try to personally try to pronounce things correctly but when someone else pronounces stuff i don't correct i don't correct anybody like if i if i don't try to like you know i'm like oh oh that should be pronounced i don't care i don't care how anyone pronounces anything because who's to say that i'm the right one who's to say that I'm right who's to say that you know anyone else is right well

Speaker 4
I'll

Speaker 1
tell you you're wrong

Speaker 4
if you're like nope it's not

Speaker 1
yeah but if you're like that's not it in this case I'll be like no I know I know I'm right on this

Speaker 3
yeah

Speaker 4
sometimes you just want you know some nice vaginas with a good mojito

Speaker 1
with some nice jalapenos on there yeah

Speaker 2
yeah

Speaker 1
that's how we pronounce it here so this is how it's pronounced yes exactly that's how language works that's exactly

Speaker 4
that's what

Speaker 1
like that's the whole point of dialects yeah that's the way you pronounce things well in this

Speaker 4
case too if it's someone like last name you don't get to tell them how to say their last name it's their last name yeah they

Speaker 1
could be like it could look you know it could look like i don't know like the word wand and instead they're like oh no uh our last name is pronounced what and and you're like really

Speaker 3
okay but

Speaker 1
that's their last name it's what and you know

Speaker 4
there's a city here named chili but it's not pronounced like you think chili to be pronounced huh how's it pronounced like

Speaker 2
a

Speaker 3
lie like

Speaker 4
an sh or is one of the eyes like a different

Speaker 1
Kelly

Speaker 4
Kylie

Speaker 1
Kylie

Speaker 4
is someone just getting censored or do they just post that it's a link probably

Speaker 6
I just

Speaker 1
imagine semi-automatic is just cursing that's the real kai lie fuck

Speaker 2
now it's a link

Speaker 1
it's like but yes that's that's what the whole point of dialects is is is how people pronounce things and how it's different and how people talk is slightly different from each other

Speaker 4
how you can tell someone from the south from the north like it's it's everywhere you go over in Europe and people are speaking different dialects fucking two streets away. You can't understand each other.

Speaker 2
That also happens here too.

Speaker 4
Limited to America. Well, here it's usually more than a couple streets. We have bigger spaces. But it is funny though when you run into like, you know, northerners versus southerners or,

Speaker 3
you know, west coast versus east coast.

Speaker 2
Louisiana, like the French Korea. even like that

Speaker 4
but just like you know like do you have aunts or do you have ants that depends entirely where you grew up

Speaker 3
whether you have

Speaker 4
aunts and uncles or aunts and uncles for example or if it's soda or pop right or a soft drink

Speaker 2
or fizzy that's

Speaker 1
why

Speaker 4
like there's one of those

Speaker 1
tests that's like oh we could tell where you're from just by seeing like you know

Speaker 3
like take a small quiz

Speaker 1
and be able to tell you where you're from and

Speaker 3
like

Speaker 1
that always screws us over because of what we call the night before halloween apparently it's like hyper local what we call the night before halloween and here it's mischief night ah and that is like only found in like just this area and maybe combined with like one other thing they're always like it's like oh like you know maybe it'll see It's like I've got you pinned to the county. Like, Jesus, okay. Like, there's one county in New Jersey. This is like where you're from because you answered these two questions and it gave us like, you know, from just like what these two things are called and that's it. We know exactly where you are. And yeah, that's one of them is that the night before Halloween is Mischief Night. And it's like, it's rare to find anyone calling it Mischief Night. But that's the night you do mischief.

Speaker 4
Yeah, that's not a wholly American thing. That's just a people thing. Yeah, that's

Speaker 1
all over the world. I'd say the UK

Speaker 4
was doing it before America formed.

Speaker 1
every night is mischief night if you try hard enough. Right.

Speaker 4
Yeah, the British

Speaker 1
Empire,

Speaker 4
if you will. And the other people that were in charge long enough before then, the same thing. Just how people were. Ah, It's a tiny Ocho. You.

Speaker 1
So I've been this way since September. And I hope to be for a lot longer. I'm like, just keep me this way. Just forever. I'm cool with it. Said I don't, you know, there's really no trouble that I, you know, maybe occasionally I get, like, trapped on, like, a branch or something. I just have to jump over it. But other than that, like, I really do not have any troubles being this small. See, right here, I got stuck. Like, right there. Like, this

Speaker 3
was

Speaker 1
too big of a step up for... Mind the steps. Like, that's too big. Mind the gap. I can't get up that step. I can't get up that step without jumping. Like, you know, aside from that, like... Nah. I'm cool. אני חושב שקצת מי יגיד לך "כמה אתה קצת קצת קצת?" ואני ככה "אוו, כן, קצת בגרתן פורטל" ואני ככה "לא, באמת, כשקצת הווי היו כבר חי that have been messing with us the entire time like every time not every time we have an episode but most times we have an episode and we've got a big show someone messes with us and they've always wanted to keep themselves secret and i've always respected that even though i'm horribly curious i've absolutely respected i think there was one time i even asked andy i was like who is and he was like they don't want me to tell you i was like okay i was like okay all right cool that's fine like it's just one of those we'd love to know but that's okay it's one of my favorite things in this game oh yeah no it's and uh like i said you do not see the amount of dev participation in this game or uh in any other game that you see in this game there was even an

Speaker 3
article on

Speaker 1
massively today where it's like the writer that generally is always crapping on secret world um basically had a post that was like one of the reasons why he really loved secret world was because it was back during the golem event in tsw and uh joel bylos like actually joined in to to to fight the golems and he made himself giant to fight the golems. And it's like, and he was like, I've never seen that since. I've never seen that, like, you know, that sort of, that sort of dev interaction, like, since then. And it's sort of like, what do you mean since then? Like, we've seen it all the goddamn time. Because they don't play the game.

Speaker 4
Yeah. That's why. Also, holy shit, my SP and AP is out of hand.

Speaker 1
I know my my SP is capped

Speaker 4
well yeah but if you get reward stuff that goes over cap

Speaker 1
did I correct them no I'm not correcting them they can stay well kind of now that

Speaker 3
I think about it

Speaker 1
I did kind of correct them I was like I think I basically replied to it on blue sky with like oh no secret world devs Yeah, no, I've been tiny since September. What's your

Speaker 4
AP SP at, Mikey?

Speaker 1
Well, I haven't actually fully capped out my AP yet. All

Speaker 4
this time.

Speaker 1
Never capped out my AP. But my

Speaker 4
SP is at 175.

Speaker 1
And that is capped out.

Speaker 4
My SP is at 675 and my

Speaker 1
AP is at

Speaker 3
835.

Speaker 4
675 and 835, respectively. and that it would be a lot higher but when Dark Agartha first came out I didn't know you had to wait for the legends for the next day or whatever

Speaker 1
so I spent

Speaker 4
hundreds rerunning Dark Agartha trying to find the other legends

Speaker 1
Scratch says he currently has 1724 and

Speaker 4
1568 that's what I'm saying I would be in the thousands if I didn't drop a shit ton when Dr. Arthur came out.

Speaker 1
Believe it or not, elsewhere, I do not. I have not. I do have the keycard, though. Vommer, you

Speaker 3
don't want to know my APSB?

Speaker 1
No, Vommer, we do. We do want to know it. What is yours?

Speaker 4
Yeah, is it over the thousands?

Speaker 1
but exact what exact no that's my thing i've always um i love secret world uh to death i love it it's fantastic but i've always been the i i played lots of games i played lots of mmos 4449 2817 well done

Speaker 3
well done

Speaker 1
amazing i'm the type where i play i play multiple mmos i'm more of the uh i i play all kinds um i wanted that uh that perspective of and that's what i always thought i brought to the table of beyond the veil was it was like you know there's a lot of people there who were just like you know like very always focused on the pvp and um other people just focused on like the dungeons and i was like no I focus on like the MMO genre as a whole, like, and what, what secret world brings to the table that all these other MMOs don't, you know, don't have, or don't, um, what makes this special from like a genre perspective instead of just the, the individual game perspective. But that means that I, you know, spend my time in a whole bunch of other games. That's what I do.

Speaker 4
I spend my time on 29 other characters. Yes. Right. And so that's why I would say, well, other games well

Speaker 1
people are like oh i have uh you know i have how many alts and i'm like well you know i could say that i have 30 characters but they're all spread across 30 games you know they're just all in different games

Speaker 4
yeah i mean okay so i have the 30 here but i also have like i don't know like a dozen plus gotta be over that Elden Ring characters.

Speaker 3
You

Speaker 4
know? Like, half a dozen Bloodborne characters. Some Dark Souls characters.

Speaker 1
I'm not saying this is your only game. Of course it's not. Yeah.

Speaker 4
No, I'm saying even the other games I play, like, depending which ones, I also kind of, you know, don't do just one. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2
the alt-itis is strong it's very strong

Speaker 4
when I was playing Bloodborne I made a whole character just to role play through as the doll like I got the sliders to make your character look like the doll and just made a new character and played through the whole game as the doll

Speaker 1
just to do

Speaker 4
it

Speaker 1
just to do it yeah

Speaker 4
yeah I already had all the achievements I just wanted to play it again

Speaker 1
you see people doing that in like I said lotro is that is another one of the big games i play and yeah there are people there who are like oh yeah how many alts do you have they're like well i have one of each class um on each server so

Speaker 3
for every

Speaker 1
server one of each class of each race and it's like like you're telling me you have like 80 like 80 characters maybe like

Speaker 3
yeah it's

Speaker 1
like if you love it if you love it that's what you do you know

Speaker 4
i

Speaker 1
mean i have

Speaker 4
let's see three four i have like four four doing awakening characters already that game just came out and i went through a shit ton in the in the closing

Speaker 1
beta oh gosh yeah

Speaker 4
yeah i i was doing i was doing like challenge runs in the beta just to see what i could do so

Speaker 2
like

Speaker 4
i think i had easily half a dozen in the beta

Speaker 2
you were doing it see

Speaker 1
there you go

Speaker 2
nisha's got it

Speaker 3
yeah she says

Speaker 1
lotro i have 18 characters on quick hollow my second account i have 14 yeah see there that's 32 right there yeah yeah load loader is absolutely a game um where uh where people love alting yeah and i don't even know if you even get that much more out of it from alting in lotro because all like the quest text is the same all the you know i mean yeah they're different classes sure but like that game is amazing i can't put it down it is it is one of my favorites i do like it is one of the ones that I've played the most of the past seven years that I've been keeping track. But I'm a

Speaker 3
fan of Tolkien lore. Because I'm a fan of good lore. Which, you

Speaker 1
know, which would lead me to Secret World as well. It has good lore. Alright. It's getting late. agents this has been the Zero Point Report strain 103-FIN going forward you can catch us streaming live on our own Twitch channels, we all have Twitch channels we all stream keeping up the conversation on our Discord server still reposting the news we find through our social media channels on X and Blue Sky or when the Secret World News dictates that we need to have another episode that we'll come back and we'll talk all about it Of course, you can watch or download this and previous episodes of our show on YouTube or wherever podcasts are found so you can keep the zero point pathogen flowing. Jimmy, where can we find you online? Jimmy the rabbit dot com. Jimmy the rabbit dot com. Two ton waffle. Where can we find you online?

Speaker 2
Two ton waffle dot me.

Speaker 1
Two. That's right. I was going to be like two-ton waffle.org, but no, you're.me.

Speaker 2
.me.

Speaker 1
.me. And I'm Ocho, and you can find me here on Twitch and Blue Sky. That's primarily where you can find me. All links at linktree.com. I don't have my own website. Maybe someday. Who knows? I don't know. From all of us here at the Zero Point Report, we want to thank you for tuning in. thank you for an absolutely wonderful six years to 12 years and wish you all the best from the secret world have a great night everybody and we'll see you next time bye everyone